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 08-31-2002, 23:18 Post: 41881
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Well, this didnít start out to be an experiment but it turned into one and a graphic learning experience.
I am trying to sell my 4100 and thought it might have more eye appeal if it had something hanging off the back. So I drove up to the old chicken coop/now woodshed and storage shed and hooked up the clamp on forks to pull the 5í rear blade out of the coop where it was stored on a pallet. I didnít worry about rear ballast cause I was only picking up 185# (plus the pallet and forks) and I was gonna drive real slow down to the driveway.
By the time I got down to level ground I knew something was wrong. I got off the tractor and reached down, grabbed one of the lower arms on the 3ph and lifted the rear end of the tractor off the ground with one hand!
Thank God I didnít go fast or hit the brakes. Damn good thing I kept it in 1st gear.
So I off loaded the blade and the pallet, leaving the forks on the bucket, and tried it again. This time it took two hands but the rear end came right off the ground. It felt about the same as lifting a 75# sack of something off the deck.
Good grief.
No wonder the ownerís manual goes overboard with the ballast recommendations. Those forks weigh 82 pounds and that is enough to de-stabilize a totally un-ballasted 1500# tractor.
Lesson: Never, never, ever use the FEL without at least two times the weight of what is in the bucket hanging off the rear end. And be most circumspect when using clamp on bucket forks.






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 09-01-2002, 04:21 Post: 41885
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Thanks for sharing your experience, Mark. In its current configuration, does your 4100 have any ballast at all? You've got me wondering if I have enough.






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 09-01-2002, 04:31 Post: 41886
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Oops, must have missed something, you did say totally unballasted. Good learing experience though. Good luck with your sale.






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 09-01-2002, 10:58 Post: 41892
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Totally unballasted, expect for me. I reckon a safe ballast for that little 300# load would have been 600#. So a full set of wheel weights plus 400# (or a box scraper) on the 3ph would have done the job.






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