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 01-19-2002, 14:33 Post: 34715
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 Reinforcing Deere 420 loader for hooks on top

I want to put some hooks on the top of my 420 loader bucket on my John Deere 4200 MFWD so I can secure a rope, strap or chain if I need to. The metal there doesn't look the heaviest so I'm planning on bending some plate steel to match the radius of the bucket there and weld to the inside before I attach the hooks. My plan is to weld a solid bead all the way around the four sides of the new reinforcing plate so as to avoid any gaps being homes for dirt and moisture which could lead to premature rusting. Am I thinking of this right here? Then I'd either weld or bolt big loop hooks on either end and in the middle with a couple of clevis chain hooks midway between the ends and the middle hook. I figure that way anything I'd want to do I could from about any position. Any thoughts on doing this or another way to go about it now before I get started?






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 02-08-2002, 13:40 Post: 35410
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 Reinforcing Deere 420 loader for hooks on top

Gary,
I added two hooks to the top of my 410 loader. I used 5000# rated tow hooks with keepers from Walmart, about $10 each. I drilled through the top of the bucket and mounted them even with the loader arms, and put 2" washers under the nuts. Painted the bare edge of the hole with a little rustoleum. I have used the hooks to carry 12 foot logs in the 12-14" diameter range with no deflection in the bucket. Also handy for strapping big items into the bucket that would otherwise fall out. With the limited lifting capacity of these loaders, this has worked for me. Chrome looks nice too.
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 02-09-2002, 06:04 Post: 35421
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 Reinforcing Deere 420 loader for hooks on top

I tried to find a site I stumbled on several months ago. They had a catalogue entry for weldable grab hooks and a bunch of other types.

I couldn't find it, so I'll have to be content by noting some terminology, which is perhaps more of a pain than useful. I think that clevis refers to the attachment end of a hook--it's the loop with a pin for attaching to the end link on a chain. Weldable and bolt through also refer to the attachment end. Grab or slip refer to function of the hook (whether or not chain slides through the hook) and also roughly refers to the shape and width of the slot. 'Tow' is a specialized type of slip hook. 'Eye' and 'logging' are other slip types, and there are a bunch of specialized types. Snap and safety refer to bales that go across the mouth of a hook.

I don't want to belabour the terminology stuff, but it might help find what is needed in a catalogue some place. For example, I'd probably start looking for weldable or bolt through grab hooks since a clevis hook is designed to go on chain. A choice between slip, grab or a both types is a matter of preference.

I think that it's a good idea to have at least one grab hook. Without something that locks chain to the bucket there's a risk that a large unwieldy load chained to the top of a bucket can compress or shift. Loops of chain that are wrapped around a load and bucket and secured by grab hooks, or better yet load binders, can become loose enough that the load can slip around and off the bucket or fall back on the tractor. I tend to use grade-70 transport chain and hook types as needed for everything. Rope and nylon strap cuts easily around metal so you have to route it carefully and inspect it frequently.






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