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 05-08-2001, 08:29 Post: 27883
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 Filled tires vs. weights

I am considering filled tires for my TC33D. Are there any disadvantages or problems anyone has had with these? Are wheel weights or 3-pt. weights any better or worse?






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 05-08-2001, 10:07 Post: 27891
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I like windshield washer fluid to fill tires.Have tried weights and counter ballance and prefer loaded tires .Once they are loaded you can forget them.You don't have to unbolt them or unhook anything.Good luck Ken






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 05-08-2001, 13:51 Post: 27904
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What happens when a big thorn pokes a hole in the tire? Seems like a LOT of trouble when your tires are loaded.






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 05-08-2001, 14:39 Post: 27908
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Alan,

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 05-09-2001, 06:50 Post: 27959
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One advantage of loaded tires compared to either wheel weights of ballast boxes is that the weight in loaded tires produces a somewhat lower center of gravity. Loaded tires can be very inconvenient though. I've heard some very strong advice against using windshield washer fluid to load tires because some products are mostly methanol. Such products can produce an explosive air mixture inside tires. It is toxic and possibly flammable if it leaks. And, some tire shops won't work on methanol loaded tires. Anyway, that's the way the warnings I've heard go.






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 05-10-2001, 08:19 Post: 28001
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What about using anti-freeze? Pros / Cons ?






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 05-10-2001, 10:07 Post: 28004
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Tom, I don't think the slightly lower center of gravity makes any measureable difference. I assume that you mean because the fluid only fills the tire to within 75 to 90%. That little air space left without water surely isn't much of an effect relative to the weight of the tractor.






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 05-11-2001, 06:14 Post: 28035
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Roger: The centre of gravity issue is something I've heard, but like you I've haven't heard anybody say there's much practical benefit in terms of added stability. I do have the general sense that weight added below axle level is good for stability, and loaded tires do add some weight below axle level due to the air space at the top. However, I'm guessing that the CG in most tractors is somewhat above axle level, and wheel weights would also lower the CG, even though their weight distribution is symmetrical around the axle. Perhaps a more weighty issue (Yikes a pun I guess) is traction. Something else I've heard is that wheel weights are better at increasing traction than loaded tires. The idea is that loading tires distorts the tread at ground contact. There's also something like gyroscoping in road gear I hear. Don't know about these things since I don't have loaded tires.






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 05-11-2001, 06:24 Post: 28036
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Regarding anti-freeze: Much better than CACL I believe. CACL is pretty caustic stuff, and its main advantage is that it's cheap. It does weight slightly more than anti-freeze solutions. Ethyl glycol anti-freeze, is less caustic than CACL, but it is toxic and does have it's own disposal problems. It also will kill everything where it leaks. Dogs like it, and it kills them. Proply glycol anti-freeze has much less disposal problems but it is expensive. I believe that methanol based washer fluids should be avoided.






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 05-11-2001, 23:01 Post: 28066
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I am just about to take delivery of a NH75S and it's R4's will be CALC loaded. My current 2120 which I keeping and the traded Ford 1710 were also loaded. Even my old 8N was loaded. The only tractor I ever had that wasn't CALC loaded was a Deere 650 and it was so darn tippy that I traded it for the 1710

I can't imagine using a FEL with out rear tire loading. I've had punctures a couple of times and it's no problem if you take (or have their mobil unit come to you) the tractor to a tire dealer who services big trucks and tractors. They just pump out the CALC, fix the leak or put a new tube in and pump the same CALC back in.

Even a decent size puncture doesn't leak out much fluid. I'd also advise not to fill your tires with one of the "solid" fills unless changing them by cutting them in half with a chainsaw is your style. BTW my 2120 is 12 years old and it is still on original rear Ags.

Hope this helps Andy






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