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 07-24-2000, 15:00 Post: 18229
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 Engaging the "Float" Position

I am using a JD 420 loader with a JD 4400 and having trouble engaging the "float" position for getting the bucket to follow the contours of the ground. When I push the control lever all the way forward, as instructed, it forces the bucket lower and raises the front wheels off the ground. I would appreciate some advice on what the problem might be.






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 07-24-2000, 16:35 Post: 18230
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To find float, you sort of bump the control forward, you will feel a detent after the lower position, don't pull the control back, let the spring bring it back.






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 07-24-2000, 17:24 Post: 18232
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Doug, when you push the lever forward until it stops (the detent), you should then be able to push harder and go past the detent and into the float position.






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 07-24-2000, 18:55 Post: 18235
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Doug, I like you must not have figured this trick out. I can find float with no difficulty when sitting still but as soon as I start moving, I go past float and raise the blade. Sound familiar? So for all you pros out there, any trick?
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 07-24-2000, 19:01 Post: 18236
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Jerri, now you've stumped me. How can you go "past" float? You pull back or down on the joystick to raise the bucket, you push forward or up to lower the bucket, and push all the way forward or up to go into float position.






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 07-24-2000, 19:07 Post: 18238
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I will check that tonight and see if my recollection is faulty, been a week or two since I've used it ha ha. Anyway, it set up like you describe should be easy to do. So I wonder. Will let you know later. Thanks, Jerri






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 07-24-2000, 20:59 Post: 18240
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I have two tractors with hydraulic lift on the front (Kubota B8200 and Steiner 430 Max) and both use the same float procedure. Push the lever forward until you feel a little down pressure, the down pressure will increase and then you will be at a detent point. A quick push past the detent puts it into float. After getting a feel for this, you can go right into float (while moving or stationary) without raising the front end from down pressure. With a front mounted bucket, you have to be careful that the leading edge of the bucket is not tipped down so it doesn't dig into the ground but rides along the surface.






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 07-24-2000, 22:37 Post: 18243
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Doug--on my 4400 with the 430 loader, I simply push the joystick all the way forward, but found that it usually works better for me if I set the float position when the tractor is stopped. IF I am moving and wish to set the float position, I usually snap the joystick forward and let go--I can feel the joystick go past the detent and go into the float position. Mike S.






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 07-25-2000, 07:03 Post: 18247
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If all else fails, check the hoses. The spooling valve with the larger rear portion is the valve with a float position. The bucket lift cylinder hoses should be connected to that valve. It took me quite awhile to find the float when I bought my used tractor. The float valve was connected to the bucket curl cylinder. A floating bucket, rather than lift, sounds strange, but somebody said that tractors used in haying are sometimes set up with floating buckets.






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 07-25-2000, 08:24 Post: 18251
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To Bird and everyone else, thanks. Yes I checked my "Float" and it is as you said. I have tried to use it when grading by dragging the bucket, tractor in reverse, and guess I was doing too many things at once, because I lifted the tractor almost everytime. Anyway, practice practice practice.
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