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 02-16-2000, 00:00 Post: 12860
Matt Dewalt



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I have a 1996 Cub 7194. It has the model 416 loader with 48" bucket and has a 630lb. lift capacity. I am told, and looking at the specs., it seems to be a Woods 1006 which is also rated for 630lbs. Is it possible, without causing damage, to increase lift capacity? How would I do it? Go from 1-1/2" cylinders to 2" cylinders? Change the pump? Woods has a 1009 which is verysimilar to the 1006. It's lift capacity is 1100lbs. The only difference in hydraulics seems to be the large 2" cylinders. I like this tractor alot and do not want to sell it just to get something with more lift capacity. Or, is that what I have to do? Thanks.






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 02-16-2000, 00:00 Post: 12885
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Simply increasing the cylinder size from 1.5" to 2" diameter will increase your lift to just over 1100 lbs. It will also slow the movement of the lift arms proportionately. I couldn't say how the rest of the tractor will react to another 500 lbs in the loader, but you may want to put some thought into why the designer restricted the lift to 630# in the first place....You gotta figure that the design engineer considered the implications of cylinder size before she picked the 1.5" size. Some areas to give you an idea of where to start to look are: front tire ratings (do your figuring based on if it hits a bump when traveling in road gear with the bucket full), front axle pivot bolt strength (shear strength, also dynamic), don't forget that you've doubled the tendency for the rear wheels to come off the ground in all situations.. Less obvious are the increased stress on the center of the tractor - typically the bellhousing area. I don't have a clue as to how you could figure those out. But we are in good company, because more than one company has gotten this bellhousing calculation wrong in the past....which is the main reason for the popularity of full length loader frames.
Or you can use what is locally called the cowboy method: i.e. bolt the larger cylinders in and cross your fingers.






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 02-17-2000, 00:00 Post: 12894
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I hate to be the 'fly' in the loader 'ointment' but it would be worth verifying (with Woods techies) that there is not a difference in the wall thickness or tensile strength of material used to build the two different but similar models. It is a common production trick to share designs but differ construction materials to 'shave a few cents' off the cost of producing a lower rated piece of equipment.






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