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 09-02-2002, 14:47 Post: 41929
Jim Edmonds
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 Removing sand from horse arena

At the risk of exposing myself as a novice, I was wondering if someone could help me decide the best way to do the following.

We have an outdoor horse arena about 80 x 160. Unfortunately, we got too much sand place on it and it is hindering the horses ability to perform properly.

I have a small John Deere 4300. I don't believe a scraper will do the job since it will overflow with sand before I reach an end point. I've seen a box scraper but not quite sure how that would work. I think I want to collect a layer of sand and deposit it at another point in the arena. Does a box scraper permit this action? Of course a front end loader would probably do the job, but cost just out of line for my usage overall.

Any 2 cent opinions gladly welcome.

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 09-02-2002, 15:42 Post: 41931
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A scraper blade will remove the sand but it will be difficult to have it completely even. You can always angle the blade and keep drawing the sand to one side.
A box blade is essentially a blade with ends on it to keep the material from flowing of the end. Like a commercial scraper you can draw material with you in the box and then release it by raising the allowing the material to flow out. I this manner you can place a relatively even amount of material over an area.






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 09-02-2002, 18:16 Post: 41937
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Any blade or bucket, front or rear, will do the job given enough time and patience. You will end up with an uneven surface with the best of tools. To finish the job drag a chunk of chain link fence (or an old railroad tie or a log or a wood pallet with a couple of cement blocks on top)around and around and around to level and smooth it out. I bet there is something at the dump if you don't have a good collection of odds and ends around the old homestead. How do you deal with your horse droppings? Or are they pastured and alowed to spread it themselves?






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 09-02-2002, 19:07 Post: 41938
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 Removing sand from horse arena

I appreciate the courtesy of your replys. I think the blade scraper behind the tractor will probably be my best choice. I do currently have a chain link fence weighed down with cinder blocks that I use on the arena to level out the hoof prints left in the sand, so that will help the leveling process after using the scraper.

Does the size of the scraper matter, other than larger ones covering more of an area? And when purchasing should I look for a blade that simply sets at a 45 degree angle or do some of them have various angles to use?

Thanks.






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 09-02-2002, 20:03 Post: 41942
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As an alternative to the rear scraper blade. Take a look at a landscape (York)rake. It will angle thus rolling the sand off to one side or the other, and it will give you a nice finish.






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 09-02-2002, 20:58 Post: 41945
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Your 4300 should be able to swing a 7-foot rear blade without problems. I have seen them in the local farm supply store for $250 or so for a 60". Every one I have seen that is worthwhile has built in detents for the angle and are also reversible so it will smooth or cut in either direction. The key element as to size is to have the tracks form your rear wheels covered when the blade is angled.






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 09-03-2002, 07:40 Post: 41956
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If you get the blade too wide, beyond the width of the tracks it is difficult to move close to a building, fence line etc. When you turn away from the structure the blade will initially move toward the structure. The longer the blade the more it will move.






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 09-03-2002, 16:58 Post: 41972
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The first thing you will need is patience. It takes a long time to move much dirt in a blade in an area as large as a horse areana. There are just more yards of dirt to move than you realaized.

My choice would be a 6' box scraper, but a 7' foot blade will give the same results, It will be cheaper than the box, but will take a little longer. the choice is yours, you know your budget.

It will leave the surface just like the posts ahead of me describe, and you will need a drag, just like they told you.

The good news is, short of a bulldozer or any other large, expensive, earthmoveing quipment. The blade or boxblade is the best way. It will just take some time.

He is an interesting tip that is a little off topic but I feel it's worth adding.

On the subject of horse droppings:

Your pasture will be better maintained if you add some whole kernaled corn to the horses feed. All kinds of critters will spread that pile out just to eat the kernal of corn. My neihgbor tried this, and it worked great, hear are wild turkeys in our area now, and the piles get spread out as fast as they fall from the horses!






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 09-04-2002, 07:48 Post: 41986
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Thanks again for all the input. I think I can hear the theme from "Green Acres" playing in the background!

I realize now that using a scraper to move the sand will result in alot of sand. Exactly where I'm going to place it will be another decision. A box scraper seems to have an advantage in the sense that I could go in a straight direction (in the center of the arena) and remove the sand in a more precise direction. The blade seems to only offer the choice of angling from center out to edges and I think the resulting "mound" might look like a mountain. But a basic scraper might be useful in the future.

Since a box scraper is basically a scraper with sides, I'm surprised no one has invented a way of adding sides to a scraper to convert it?

I'm headed out today to see, feel and touch the scrapers to get a better picture of what I'm dealing with.

Thanks again.






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 09-04-2002, 09:19 Post: 41988
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 Removing sand from horse arena

At the risk of making sense... Wouldn't it just be a lot easier to ADD something (stone dust, clay, etc.) to the mix to make it a little more to your liking than trying to excavate a uniform (relatively large) amount of sand ?
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