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 10-29-2007, 22:33 Post: 147528
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Sometimes my bank account makes too many decisions for me, and here's a chance for me to eat my words on Chinese implements. Tell me what you guys think.

Last Saturday, I bush hogged a lake property that had overgrown probably ten years. Left quite a mess. Found about a half ton of scap iron in the process...and I actually watched the owner walk over it as I got started. Well, the mess that was left behind consists of stuff up to a foot long.

The owner wants me to rake it up. I don't have a landscape rake yet, and Atwoods has a 6 foot rake made in China for $229, on sale now. Tractor Supply has a King Kutter version of the same (I guess) for $399. I haven't checked with my beloved Land Pride dealer yet.

Anyway, do you think that I'm just throwing away any profits I may make from cleaning up the place by buying cheap? I used a makeshift rake growing up, made out of an old bemuda grass scratcher if I remember correctly, but never a factory made one. So I need your thoughts.

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 10-29-2007, 23:34 Post: 147531
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Mark,

Just my opinion here......

There isn't much that can go wrong with a landscape rake. It's a fairly simple device, with no moving parts. ANY rake will do ya.

Now I'm not so sure that I'd want to drive my tractor over any scrap iron.....and I don't. Picking up the scrap iron, even if I'd have to do it at no charge, would be well worth my time and effort......just to save my tractor and tires.

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 10-30-2007, 06:09 Post: 147533
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There's plenty that can go wrong on a rake.

I have a TSC 5' (garbage) and a 6' LandPride. I bent the TSC one after minutes of use. I bent the LP but that was from extreme abuse on my part.

The cross beam the tines attach to is the biggie. Ones made from a single piece of angle and are easily twisted---read: permanently.

The tine design themselves are a key to longevity in that some have a bent tang that helps holds them on the bar before the clamp bar gets tightened. Some don't have the tang so if the clamp bar comes loose you lose the tine. Some have a hole in the tine for a single bolt which can come loose. Then there's the kind of steel they're made of--the cheap ones don't hold their shape or are brittle.

The clamps or clamp bars are somtimes made of thin steel. When stressed they collapse and the tine falls out.

The pivot point is also prone to wallowing-out (wear) due to a poor fit from the start.

The LP has an optional fold down grader/scraper blade and gage wheels which make a perfect thing for grading and raking all in one.

Oh yeah, as far as being handy, consider installing a hydraulic cylinder on the rake beam. It's a great time and back saver being able to change direction on the fly. Be sure to make it removable so that you can spin the rake beam 180 degrees and reattach the cylinder. That way you can push backward too.

Also, the hydraulic top link is a handy option too in that you can adjust the "bite" or agressiveness of the attack of the tines, which is good for removing certain items and not others since it will bounce over them and not drag everything.

Expect to pay 3 times the TSC for the LP. But you'll get 10 times the life too. And like they say "It's only money"






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 10-30-2007, 08:07 Post: 147538
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I agree with Joel running over metal with tires often cost you.

I agree with EW on plenty can go wrong with a rake also. If you must go with a lower quality rake, then take the load with it easy.

You may find you can rent a rake for the job and possibly a large magnetic even to pick up the metal. If possible you may wish to burn off what you cut before putting your tractor back on it to help you see the metal. kt






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 10-30-2007, 08:59 Post: 147542
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I've had an LP for years, can't seem to hurt it. I've leveled lots of crushed limestone and loose soil with it. Frank.






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 10-30-2007, 15:36 Post: 147555
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I second the pivot point comment. I snapped one of those cheapie six footers right in half at the pivot point. I suggest you select a rake that supports the pivot at no less than two points. Tangled tines are another problem. Look for a rake that employs two bolts per tine, or a single bolt system with spacers between the tines.

If your tractor doesn't have draft control, you might also want to consider gauge wheels.

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 10-30-2007, 22:47 Post: 147566
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Thanks for the input...now to come up with a few extra bucks...

kt,I like your idea of burning it off before doing anything else. That might just work.

And I didn't run over the metal by choice...and I know that if I had punctured a tire I would have been in the hole at the end of the day. I was careful, and pulled most of the stuff out when I heard the first clank in the area. I guess the neighbors thought it was a dump. I found the metal frame of a trampoline (dismantled, of course), old bed springs, pipe, etc.

When I talked with the owner, he said that the reason they suspect the land went unleased for so many years was that the people on either side had cut the grass so far into the lot that the narrow strip left looked like a drainage area. Whatever the case, they lucked out.

Land Pride rake = around $650. King Kutter rake = $399. Cheap Chinese made Topro rake = $229

Decisions, decisions...money, money.






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 10-30-2007, 22:49 Post: 147567
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Thanks for the input...now to come up with a few extra bucks...

kt,I like your idea of burning it off before doing anything else. That might just work.

And I didn't run over the metal by choice...and I know that if I had punctured a tire I would have been in the hole at the end of the day. I was careful, and pulled most of the stuff out when I heard the first clank in the area. I guess the neighbors thought it was a dump. I found the metal frame of a trampoline (dismantled, of course), old bed springs, pipe, etc.

When I talked with the owner, he said that the reason they suspect the land went unleased for so many years was that the people on either side had cut the grass so far into the lot that the narrow strip left looked like a drainage area. Whatever the case, they lucked out.

Oh, the mess I was speaking of wan't metal, it was mesquite. That's what needs to be raked up and disposed of.

Land Pride rake = around $650. King Kutter rake = $399. Cheap Chinese made Topro rake = $229

Decisions, decisions...money, money.






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 10-31-2007, 00:24 Post: 147572
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 Landscape rake

Mobilus,

I'm not clear as to what you want to do with the rake. Rake up the iron pieces or rake up the plant debris or both. If it is the iron, I don't think it will effectively handle the larger or flat pieces.
If you raking up woody plant debris, you will get a lot of dirt with it and then the piles will be hard to burn.

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 10-31-2007, 07:39 Post: 147574
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Mobilus, if you find the rake is piling up a lot of dirt,you may find removing like every other tooth will let the dirt flow though (of course some fine trash also).

If there is a lot of large scrap metal (not sure what you describe would do it) may find a scrap metal person who will pick it up are at least haul it off.

I can very much understand what you are facing, same thing happened to where we live. Funny how neighbors think you want their scrap.

Be careful running back over any trees you cut off with cutter, they can puncture a tire very quickly. I know. kt






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