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 05-06-2007, 12:20 Post: 141847
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Hi -- I have a JD 4320 and am looking for a new or used hydraulic dump wagon (2ton or more). Does anyone have any suggestions on a make / model / supplier?

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 05-06-2007, 13:09 Post: 141850
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Northern sells a pretty inexpensive 2-ton dump trailer. It comes without a hydraulic cylinder but is equipped for a bolt-on installation. I bought their 1-ton version and it wasn't a big deal to get the hydraulics bolted up and working. It's not an industrial strength solution but it's a lot of trailer for the money.






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 05-06-2007, 13:16 Post: 141851
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Thanks -- do you know if it is a trailer or 'wagon'?

I am hoping to find a wagon so that I can leave it loaded without worrying about the stand.






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 05-06-2007, 13:27 Post: 141852
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It's a dualie trailer with built in stand. Here's a link. You'd have to either hook it up to tractor hydraulics or install a self contained battery, pump and hydraulic system. If hooking to the tractor you'd have to get off the tractor to disconnect anyway so it doesn't seem that the stand would be a big deal.






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 05-07-2007, 09:55 Post: 141871
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 Looking for 2 ton dump wagon

Three little points here.

First, a stand is not designed to carry much of a load, so the idea of a wagon is that the load stands on the front axle not the jack stand.

Second, Ken, the trailer at Northern you linked to is a tandem, not a dually.

Finally, if your intended use is off-road type stuff with fairly rugged terrain, you don't want a wagon, they have no suspension and don't take rough ground very well. On the other hand, a tandem trailer, especially those with a "walking beam" style of suspension is far superior to the other setups.

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 05-07-2007, 11:38 Post: 141877
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Please see my post under b7800 rear hydraulics. We purchased the same dump trailer as Norhtern has, but went directly to the manufacturer. We still use the trailer, but did some pretty extensive reinforcing to the dump box carriage, and the rear pivot to get the trailer to perform properly fully loaded. In addition, the trailer comes with a slide in tail gate. We re-did the gate to be top hinged. A slide in gate is pretty much useless with a fully loaded trailer.

Other than that, it performs well. Murf's right about the suspension. The walking beam suspension works great in rough terain.






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 05-07-2007, 11:55 Post: 141878
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Thanks -- do you guys have any experience with '3pt hitch hauler' sold by northern? The website it attached.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200315495_200315495&issearch=258000






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 05-07-2007, 12:22 Post: 141881
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 Looking for 2 ton dump wagon

I built a similar unit to the Northern Tool dump box about 5 years ago and didn't find it very useful.

Two problems I discovered:

1) I had to remove rear ballast to use it.

2) It basically duplicated the function of the FEL, but not near as easy to use.

I found it far more useful to combine the rear ballast and a trailer hitch into one unit and pull a trailer.

BTW, Murf is right about wagon/running gear set-ups. I went through that phase too. They do not bend and twist on uneven ground unless you do some serious engineering on them.

I ended up disassembling the three point dump box for the parts and sold the wagon at a loss.






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 05-07-2007, 12:34 Post: 141883
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I'm not too excited about that product either. Your 4320 has a 2500lb. rating at 24" behind the lift arms. The box is 6'wide x 4' deep and also has a 2500lb. rating. If you load something toward the rear you need to watch the load weight. At 270lbs. shipping weight you will also have serious shipping costs. I don't follow how this dumps unless if you have a hydraulic toplink.

Is there a reason you are looking for just a 2 ton capacity and a down sized unit. I think you would be better off with a full size single axle dump trailer that also could be pulled on the road giving more capabilities.

I'm also assuming you have a FEL. I use that more than anything for transporting stuff. I use my tandem dump for big stuff and a small 4x8 utility trailer with pivot for stuff in-between.






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 05-07-2007, 12:54 Post: 141884
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I agree -- I have a FEL and the 'hitch hauler' would not be worth it.


I am basically trying to decide between a dump 'wagon' or a dump trailer (single or tandem). I like the wagon because I can leave it loaded easily and I like the look of the wagons better (not really a good reason but it is true). However, there aren't many dump wagons available, they seem somewhat flimsy, and you have to add the hydraulics yourself. There are lots of dump trailers out there and they seem to come in all sizes and strengths, and they many have the hydraulics right on them with electric pumps.


Do you use the tractor's rear hydraulics to run your dump trailer or does the trailer have a 12v pump? Did you set up a standard electrical hookup on your tractor so that you can plug the trailer in or do you just run the 12v pump off a battery and charge it?

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