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 09-17-2006, 11:20 Post: 135231
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I have a small piece of land in WV that's pretty flat, but does have one holler running through it which needs a road put up it. I'm wondering if I can avoid hiring a dozer to push a road up in there by using a box scraper instead.

It seems to me that if I went back and forth along the hillside in the holler (not too steep but steep enough that it needs work) with a box scraper, and lots of patience, then I should be able to work a narrow road bed into the hill over time. I've never used a box scraper before so maybe I'm asking too much of the device. Anyone have any thoughts here, or an alternative approach to getting the job done?

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 09-17-2006, 13:05 Post: 135233
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I'd be inclined to think the dozer is the right tool for that job. Get it done right the first time, then use the box blade for regular road maintenance

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 09-17-2006, 17:10 Post: 135235
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I had a small dozer in and loader and was moving earth from the front to the back of the house. In levelling I could move earth as quickly as the dozer, but in deep cuts there was no way.
If you have a heavy box blade, teeth,hydraulic top link and possibly side link, you could probably do it fairly quickly.






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 09-17-2006, 17:54 Post: 135236
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A Box Blade ain't no dozer with a six way blade.

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 09-17-2006, 20:57 Post: 135237
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OK, sounds like that idea was pretty roundly rejected. But I still can't help but think that I'll have to give it a shot. This will mainly be a logging path and I'm in no rush to make it as quickly as a dozer could. And some of the box scapers I've seen look capable of moving the limited amount of soil I'm thinking of, so I might have to give it a try anyway. At least to satisfy my curiousity before hiring the bull dozer.

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 09-18-2006, 07:52 Post: 135242
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If you are going to buy the tractor and the blade to maintain the road then it might be worth it to attempt it.
I would purchase the shuttle shift or hydro for this as it is a lot of back and forth.
The man I purchased my 755 from in KY had but in a good sized pond with the little tractors blade and bucket. I think it took about 200 hours on the tractor. With a small dozer it would have taken about 16 hours.
The tractor will not do things like pushing large stumps over, but there are limits to what a large piece of equipment can do too. The tractor can do them but you don't want to push it and be prepared to take some time.






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 09-18-2006, 08:01 Post: 135243
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WVA,
It takes good traction and horsepower to move dirt with a blade. Will you be moving rocks? How about stumps? If yes the size of those will dictate the equipment and its size. A box blade works fine for me to move dirt but I am terrible with it to grade. I find a blade better but with out ends it does not move dirt as far. I have watch a short road being built on flat farm land near my house. They have used dozer, track hoe (excavator) and road plow. I could have done as good of job with my scrape blade and tractor as they did on the ditches.

Will you be able to drive a tractor through the area you need the road to pull the dirt or do you need to push the dirt to provide a surface to drive on? Pushing backwards with a tractor gets tiring and if into a drop off that could roll a tractor is dangerous as close as your rear tires are to the blade. If so a frontend loader would be safer as you have a little more clearance and better view looking forward. Probably better control of your equipment also.

Hey, if you have the equipment and time, give it a try. Be safe, have fun.






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 09-18-2006, 08:41 Post: 135245
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A friend of mine put in a decent driveway to his place, it sounds like the terrain is similar, with a tiny mini-excavator.

All he did was dig a slot into the hill, dumping the spills on the downhill side, then he used his little tractor to smooth it out and pack it some. In one weeks holidays he had a decent driveway in.

It settled a lot, and took some heavy maintenance for the first few years, but it served his purpose.

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 09-18-2006, 14:15 Post: 135261
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My 6' box scraper can move about a 1/4 yard of dirt at a time, on level ground. Not productive. Now put it at an angle to the hillside and you lose more than half. A good small or medium size dozer seems the way to go. You might want to rent one for three days to a week and you might be amazed what you can get done in a short amount of time. Keep in kind that it's more than just cutting into the side at 90 degrees to the road bed---you'll have cut another angle up into the hill to slow errosion, and the inevitable dirt or mud slide. Also, you'll probably have to start the width of the road bed edge at the lowest part of the hillside. Otherwise, the spoils will be loose and not compact at the same rate as the virgin hillside and will slide down the hillside.






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 09-18-2006, 17:54 Post: 135268
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WVA; I'm with the guys that say give it a shot. Long as you have the time and equipment and are aware of the safety issues of hill side work. It can be dangerous but doesn't have to be with a little old fashiond take your time and think about it a minute before hand strategy. Again if time isn't an issue I've moved lots of dirt with a box scraper and the FEL. Mine has manual adjust scarifier teeth and manual tilt on the tractor three point, so that means I have to stop to adjust things as the need demands but you still will be amazed at what you can acomplish. It's kind of a neat feeling to look back and say "Hey, I did that myself." And lastly if you get overwhelmed by the project you can allways hire the dozer and let him finish up. Have fun. Frank.






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