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 04-01-2003, 16:29 Post: 52383
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I just purchase a Ford 1710. When I put it into 3rd gear, it pops right out. If you try to hold it in, it starts to grind. All other gears are OK. Anyone have any ideas of what it could be, and what it might cost to fix.

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 04-01-2003, 16:30 Post: 52384
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Third gear has chipped a tooth.






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 04-01-2003, 16:43 Post: 52389
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Thanks mark,

Any idea how costly?

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 04-01-2003, 16:49 Post: 52390
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This is a major repair, expect 1500 minimum for parts and labor unless labor is real cheap here. I suspect that New Holland might have obsoleted the parts by now unless it is still being used in the current 1720's(which it very well could be the case). They were bad about that when I used to sell parts for them in the mid 90's. Hope not though. Don't use it too much, the gear tooth might dislodge from its resting place and get between some other ones and then you will be looking for another transmission. Load it up and take it in. Chances are the magnet in the transmission caught it. However, I saw a CaseIH/Mitsubishi this week that this was not the case. The tooth lodged between two other gears and stalled every thing out when it was put in any gear.






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 04-01-2003, 17:04 Post: 52396
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Wow, that's a nice piece of change. Any way a do it yourselfer can do this with some pro tools?

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 04-01-2003, 17:33 Post: 52398
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Mark,

One last thing. I've been using the machine in 1st and 2nd gear. Are you suggesting not to use it at all?

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 04-01-2003, 17:36 Post: 52399
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It depends on your skill level. You will need a press, snap ring pliers of several descriptions, wrenches,punches, hoist,jacks, pry bars, drain pans. strength of Samson and patience of Job, and memory of them both(Or a good friend, a cool day and a parts break down which your local dealer should be friendly enough to print off.






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 04-01-2003, 17:41 Post: 52400
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Not much until you can get it stripped down. The loose tooth could lodge any where. One question?How/when did this happen? It is possible to have a bad shaft bearing causing this problem but the difficulty and repair would be basically similar. One word of advice. Get a metal marking pen and mark which way the gears come out and which ones they were next to even if you have a breakdown.






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 04-01-2003, 19:32 Post: 52409
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Sounds like a good days work. Fortunately, I'm in the midst of restoring an old car, so I have much of what I need. Except the patience, of course.

Actually, I just bought the machine this week. I was told it slips out of third gear by the seller. The tractor looks like it came out of the showroom and runs just the same. This was the only problem along with some electrical items (lighting etc.)

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 04-01-2003, 20:24 Post: 52411
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I'm just looking for the possibility of a less expensive problem. I wonder if it would make a difference to MarkL's diagnosis if the TX is the optional synchromesh rather than the standard sliding-gear TX. The synchromest TX has one shifter on the steering column and the range selector on the TX cover.

My 1710 has the synchro TX. It does pop out of reverse occasionally but doesn't require holding in and it doesn't make grinding sounds. It's got a long way to go before it becomes enough of a problem for me to repair it. When that time comes, I think there is some potential that replacing some of the linkage and detent ball might fix my type problem without major tear downs. I have heard grinding in synchro TX's before but not from my 1710. The stuff I've heard doesn't sound like gears though.

No matter which TX it has, I'd check to make sure the clutch isn't dragging.






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