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 03-08-2001, 12:41 Post: 25212
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Is it common for a Ford Model 1910 to go through 2 clutches in 900 hrs? I was told by Chappell Tractor that the cluth will rust to the pressure plate. Are these tractors made for indoor use?Chappel Tractor Sales of New Hampshire is the most expensive place I have ever done business. "Their slow...but their expensive".When I do get my tractor back I will not do business with Chappell Tractor again.Roger






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 03-08-2001, 18:05 Post: 25225
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There are 3 possibilities for premature clutch failure. One, the least likely, is a substandard clutch disc. Possible, but not likely. The second and third are where most causes lie; improper operation or improper clutch installation and setup. The dealership where I work has one customer with a 2110 compact that got a transmission clutch every 6 months for 3 years after the original clutch lasted 8 years. They changed operators and haven't ruined a clutch yet. Improper setup of the clutch assembly will yield similar results.






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 03-08-2001, 19:07 Post: 25227
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Indoor use! Bite yer tongue...But your dealer is right that the friction disk on some tractors does have a habit of rusting to the pressure plate and flywheel. It is a known problem and can happen almost overnight - but more commonly it is caused by a few months of sitting and high humidity. I've seen it on several different tractors. Most of the Japanese imports have this problem and I've also heard of it on John Deere farm tractors and the Czech Zetors. So it happens to the best as well. One fix is to get in there with something like the end of a long screwdriver and separate the plates. Sometimes they are rusted so tight you have to split the tractor. Once you get it separated the clutch is going to work all right, although the life will be somewhat shortened. Clutches on compacts typically go several thousand hours.
I've not heard of a cure, but you can prevent it by blocking the clutch pedal down with a piece of wood if you have to let the tractor set for awhile. Lots of tractors have a swiveling hook affixed right next to the clutch pedal for this very purpose.






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 03-08-2001, 22:39 Post: 25235
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The first tractor I ever used was a little (I think 1938), 2-cylinder gasoline, hand cranked John Deere that Dad bought when I was about 12 years old. And after sitting outside for awhile the clutch would stick so there was no way you could get it into gear with the engine running. Our solution was to put in low gear (3 speed just like the cars back then), open the throttle just a little bit, give the crank a hard turn (crank went in the front end), jump out of the way when it fired and started rolling, climb on from behind, stand on the clutch, open up the throttle, and stand on the brakes. That would pop the clutch loose and everything would be fine until it was left sitting for several days again. Of course, it was only a miracle that I didn't kill myself with that tractor.






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 03-09-2001, 09:24 Post: 25255
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Bird, my first cousins used to do the same thing with their old Deere when I was a kid. I used to be so impressed with their agility! Nowadays, I berate myself if I forget to buckle my seat belt on my tractor. It's a wonder any of us survived those days in farming. Then again, far too many of us didn't.






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 03-10-2001, 07:41 Post: 25318
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Roger: In fact, my Ford 1710 owner's manual specifies taking pressure off the clutch disc as part of it's storage specs. The manual describes using a block of wood between the linkage and floorboard. I never know why until a few weeks ago when this same subject came up regarding a farm tractor. As you said, the solution is to bang on a long screwdriver, provided there is access to the bell-housing area. I think I'd be out of luck with my 1710. Apparently, a disc can rust to the flywheel or to the pressure-plate, but rarely to both. I guess that's a cause for optimism.






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