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 02-12-2004, 19:57 Post: 76749
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

When the dealer delivered my JD4310 he told me that when I attached/detached the backhoe I needed to force the bucket into the ground to get the Lpins to align with RSA plates. The rockshaft doesn't rise high enough to get the pins in. I came across a section in the owner's manual that says that, if the rockshaft does not lift the backhoe high enough, the linkage which connects the rockshaft to the rockshaft control valve needs to be adjusted and to see the dealer. Is this something I can do myself?






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 02-13-2004, 08:21 Post: 76772
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

I wouldn't try it. I looked over my owner's video and then read my owner's manual, and although I have a 48 hoe on a 4610, the method is the same. I am worried this condition may lead to a headache for you if you tackle it wrong. Why do so many folks who come here feel compelled to solve these kinds of issues themselves when they have a dealer to go back to. Make the dealer show you, make the dealer responsible, not you. If the adjustment goes sour on his dime then he 'owns' the obligation to make it right. If you do it wrong? He may tell you to take a hike. Be firm, be polite, be patient, and he'll work with you to your satisfaction.






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 02-13-2004, 09:00 Post: 76776
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

This appears to be a common issue with the hoe on the 4000 series. There is a rod behind the seat that is adjustable. The rod puts the 3pt into relief once it reaches a certain height. What happens is the 3pt hits relief before the hoe is high enough to put the pins in. There are nuts on the end of the rod to make the adjustment.

The dealer showed me the adjustment and said it was set correctly but might need adjusting from time to time. I had to adjust it after a month or so but have not had to touch it since. If you watch the rod while you move the 3pt you can tell if you need to lengthen or shorten the rod. It is really easy to do but the Dealer said not to go over board with the adjustment. I think the hoe is about the only 3pt attachment where this adjustment comes into play.

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 02-13-2004, 10:07 Post: 76781
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

There are also adjustable hooks/linkage at the lift arms that change the lift height of the backhoe. This is not a hard adjustment to make, however I would agree with Abbeywoods... Have the dealer who sold you the tractor/backhoe adjust it correctly. You should expect your tractor to be set-up correctly to start with. Enjoy your new backhoe.






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 02-13-2004, 20:44 Post: 76814
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

Thanks to all for the advice. Based on what you have told me I will take my time and approach this with caution, will discuss this with the dealer.






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 02-14-2004, 04:02 Post: 76826
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

ncrunch take a look at the plastic cover the 3ph lever slides in. Loosen the 2 bolts that hold it and rap it with your palm to the rear.

When dealing with the little distance that is there provided the dealer got the adjustments right. you are only talking about a 1/16 or so more of travel with the lever. That is in the cover plate easy. The other trick to get just a tad more lift is to push down on your lever as you push it to the rear.

It seems like no matter how many times I have it on or off it will pick just a tad different each time.

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 03-02-2004, 22:13 Post: 78560
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

Nice tractor and backhoe. Is there any particular reason why you didn't get a subframe for your hoe. Scares the dog doo out of me when I hear somebody spending that kind of money and not getting a subframe.






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 03-02-2004, 22:24 Post: 78561
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

I'm pretty sure the JD 47 backhoe is subframe mounted.






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 03-03-2004, 07:21 Post: 78583
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 Attaching Backhoe to JD4310

I know it's just a wording thing and I've made many of them myself. A 3ph is adjusted so it goes into neutral at a certain height. It's out of adjustment it won't go high enough or it will run into the mechanical stop and then go into relief, which is what you don't want. The adjustment can wonder around a bit. If it's adjusted too high it can start going into relief rather than neutral at full height sometime later. You would likely hear the relief valve though.

There is a discussion of this problem somewhere in the archives but I can't remember the solution. If the rocker shaft arms are splined onto the shaft, an alternative to adjustment might be moving the arms one spline but I agree that's it's a sort of a design problem and a dealer should come up with a solution.






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 03-03-2004, 09:42 Post: 78592
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Jeff r - when I bought the unit I knew nothing about subframes - just told the dealer I wanted a FEL and a BH. The dealer told me, when I bought it, that if I wanted a 48BH instead of the 47BH for the 4310 he would have to order an extra "plate". He recommended the 47 BH for the light amount of work I have to do. I learned about subframes later through this site. Being curious I then went to the BH manual and saw nothing in the owners manual for a subframe for a 47 BH, however did see mention of subframe for larger BHs and installing them on tractors other than 4310 (5500 series?).

I can only conclude, like KW says, that either there is no subframe option for 47 BH or it is included as part of the BH unit. It has a frame that you back the 4310 up to - lift and lock into place with rockshaft - and secure with LPins. It fits the tractor tight and there is no movement once attached.






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