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 07-31-2004, 20:28 Post: 92392
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 SNOW PLOW MANUFACTURES AND SIZE

I currently have a Kubota HS5700 (21 hp). I live in VT so snowfalls can be quite large and frequent. My driveway is 2100' and all uphill. Are there any manufactures that make fork mount plows other than Curtis ? I've also been told not to go larger than 5' due to snow weight. I keep thinking whats 1 more foot, it just 6" each side.






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 08-01-2004, 21:06 Post: 92463
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I have a 4x4 33hp New Holland. And I'm a snow plowing contractor in Michigan. I wouldn't even consider using a tractor, or even a bobcat (skidsteer loader--have one too) to plow snow. It's not practical considering the weight of the tractor not to mention traction---let alone stopping. For the price of a good plow setup you can buy a 4x4 truck with a plow. I have even seen guys with 2wd dually trucks weighted down plowing---but there's nothing like 4wd when it comes to snow and ice. I use a 8-1/2' BOSS v-plow on my '03 Dodge diesel and love it. It's made in the upper penninsula of Michigan where snow is measured in yards, not feet, or inches.






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 08-03-2004, 11:42 Post: 92600
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I'm going to be the dissenting opinion on this thread, I can see it coming.

We have plowed commercially for years with CUT's equipped with FEL & frame-mounted plows. See my pic. # 6. In certain instances they will plow circles around a pickup truck with a plow on it.

I maintain my own place and a bunch of neighbours with a 7.5" pickup blade mounted on the FEL, the bracket only is shown in pic. # 18, it connects via the trailer hitch and created the wear strip visible on the lower horizontal member.

We plow some rural areas (private cottage roads & driveways) that a typical 4x4 has problems climbing AFTER we plow.

I used to run that plow on a 35hp machine, but that was a bit of a stretch considering it was on turf tires. A 5' blade should be OK, but you will have a few problems if the snow is deep or wet. Raising the blade and plowing it of in two layers might work, experience with your local conditions will tell.

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 08-03-2004, 18:35 Post: 92631
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MURF:
What would those certian circumstances be when a CUT is better than a truck? I was addressing ESCHLAK's question about his road and being uphill. Around here, for a even a truck plow to be effective you to reach speeds of at least 15-25 mph which to me doesn't seem practical or safe or a CUT. Just my opinion. Hey, and nice equipment!






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 08-04-2004, 08:56 Post: 92670
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In places where manouverability or tough terrian is an issue a CUT beats a truck hands down. We service certain niches ONLY, we don't want to be the 'shopping mall parking lot kings' too much competition means too little profit.

The situations that come to mind first would be the bad roads and driveways we plow in cottage country, some of our sites have grades and curves that far exceed anything close to reasonable. One in particular wasn't snowplowed for several years because they couldn't get anybody willing to do it, with a tractor we are able to turn around and get back up a snow covered hill no problem, the guy who had been doing came and watched the first time and just shook his head in amazement. He later asked us to buy several other 'problem' sites from him.

Another is in commercial & condominuim sites where there are obstacles (parked cars) that have to be plowed around, or long wide sidewalks that would take forever to do with a walk-behind blower. Around here most contracts forbid the use of SSL's (skid steer loaders) because of the damage they do. We can zip in & out between parked cars and roll over curbs no problem. We can also stack snow in tall tight piles like no truck could ever do, or with a 2 second changeover go back to a bucket and load it into trucks or carry it somewhere else.

We have gotten LOTS of estate residential work in the last few years also, because a CUT is capable of cleaning the snow neatly and quietly while simultaneously doing ice control it is becoming a popular choice, we have several subdivisions where we do every single house now. One private gated community specified snow removal by CUT only in their by-laws.

Really tight commercial sites downtown are also a fast growing segment of our client list and because they are all close together we can move between sites quickly & easily by walking the machiune down the road. It is also good advertising, we get a lot of sub-contract work from others seeing us work.

Thanks for the compliment, that is just some of the fleet, those were new units we got last year for just ONE contract. They have asked us to put 10 more machines on this winter, those ones replaced a bunch of Trackless MT's and Bombi plows. They plow faster and for about 15% less by the mile. The operators also like them a LOT more.

Plowing with CUT's is going to be the way of the future for a growing segment of the market.

Best of luck.






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 08-04-2004, 11:19 Post: 92684
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MURF: Got ya. I'm southwest of Detroit so everything is pretty much level around here--no bad grades to worry about. We do have "bad roads" though---but that's a different topic.






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 08-04-2004, 13:16 Post: 92696
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Just to give you an idea of what some of these 'rural' places we maintain are like I put up a picture I took, during the summer, of one of the driveways.

Picture # 17 shows the driveway into a customer's place. It is that size and condition because that's the way he WANTS it. Believe it or not that how he had it designed, if you call it that, and built. It was so far from 'normal' construction the contractor who built it insisted the customer sign a statement attached to a copy of the plans that basically certified that he wanted it just like that.

It is hard to tell from the picture, but the hill is so steep that the trucks delivering building materials had to be towed up the hill by a bulldozer. Fuel oil & propane are delivered by a 1 ton 4x4 only, no 5 ton would go up the hill, and if you did there is nowhere at the end to turn around anything that big.

The owner wanted to maintain the 'rustic charm' of the property, so the driveway was designed to be passable in the owner's Range Rover, but just barely.

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 08-04-2004, 21:56 Post: 92741
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Thanks for the varied opinions.
I do have studded chains all the way around and understand the liabilities envolved with this. My neighbor whom I share the driveway with has a Kubota L3130 with front mount Kubota snow blower so if I have anything major he can come in (the blower is amazing). Considered a blower but with the grade of my driveway, need to get even a few inches off and didn't think a blower was practical.
I had a Dodge 4X4 with Western plow but the truck is pretty used up, rust, mech. issues. Plows tend to beat up the front end of a truck pretty fast.






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 08-06-2004, 19:31 Post: 92903
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to earthworks

please bring your truck up here to northern wisc.
and clean my quarter mile driveway when there is
2 to 3 feet of snow. IMPOSSIBLE to do with a truck
unless you work with a road truck. I have used a
62 inch front blower for two years. I also have two
tractors with backblades and a 250 ford with a hiniker
plow. THe snowblower is tops!

butch






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 08-06-2004, 21:21 Post: 92907
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Well, if you really want me to--but it's $100 an hour plus travel time. Me thinks yer pullin' my chain 'cause it's SUMMER!
But seriously folks...I use a 8'-6" Boss v-plow and 2-3' of snow is nothing. I have gone right through--in one pass- a 6'-high pile that some smart alecks snow-blowed in my way thinking they could stop me---and that wasn't with the plow in the folded back v-position, that was folded fully forward (and yep, the snow was newly-fallen and the road was asphalt---so the odds were in my favor). When it comes to raods the trick is having enough weight/downpressure for traction (diesel) and being able to plow straight through it. And yep, you have to make a few passes to get it done with enough speed. But it can be done. In fact when I plow parking lots, alleys and mini-storage facilities that is the only way to plow it is with a v-plow. So when do you want me up there...






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