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 12-18-2003, 18:25 Post: 71637
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does any body know if they make a rear hydraulic snowblower. might be my answer because I do not have live pto, also my sherman low range slows down my pto, so I was thinking about running off my loader,if a hydraulic unit is made and any good thanks ps pto hp is 44






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 12-18-2003, 19:36 Post: 71640
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You would never get flow enought from your loader hyd to run a blower. A pto pump big enough to run a blower would give you the same problem when you clutch. You would have to mount your pump up front and run from crank.

I had a small Ford and a blower w/o live pto and used it for years w/o a problem. When I came to the end of a run I'd slide the gear shift to neutral let blower clear clutch shift and continue on.

Isn't your tractor capiable of a 2 stage clutch?






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 12-18-2003, 19:43 Post: 71643
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no 2 stage clutch 1962 ford 4000 industral but I do have crank shaft pump where loader is my oil tank






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 12-18-2003, 22:11 Post: 71657
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Harveys right on! You don't have enough hydraulics to run but maybe 3' of blower.






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 12-19-2003, 03:52 Post: 71671
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If you have an aux pump already check with snowblower vendor for minimum required flows, GPM, check your pump flows to see if you have it.

If I was gonna mount it I'd put it on the front and weigh the back end down HEAVY.






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 12-19-2003, 07:00 Post: 71680
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I'm guessing that the main problem is that the blower doesn't throw snow far enough in low range and the tractor goes too fast in reverse in everything but low range.

I imagine that a hydraulic blower would be pretty expensive. Maybe the existing blower gearing could be changed to get the blower up to speed in low range. Who knows, maybe different gear sets are available for the existing gearbox? If that idea worked then the blower could only be operated in low range and there might be a safety issue, but it might be cheaper than hydraulics.






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 12-19-2003, 15:24 Post: 71722
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hi tom I do not have a blower yet need one real soon . I though about a hydraulic blower and run it off my loader the pump puts out about 20 gpm so I do not know if that is enough.my problem is that my 1962 ford 4000 has a sherman tranny in front of my regular tranny which slows down my pto from 540 in direct drive to about I guess 425 in low range.the tractor does not have 2 stage clutch so I think I might be stuck.I would need a 6 foot blower but I do not know if they come in different rpms that would sure help if you or any body else knows about these different blowers that might work please let me know thanks kurt






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 12-19-2003, 16:12 Post: 71723
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Twenty gallons per minute, twenty horsepower, just enough to get by running a 60" blower at it's very maximum. This leaves nothing for loader controls for adjustment of height.






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 12-19-2003, 16:46 Post: 71726
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hi art how are you, not 20 hp but 44 pto, gpm maxs at pto speed, crank shaft pump. I guess what I am trying to do is avoid new tractor at least for now. trying to make something work at least for this winter. or maybe if they do make a high rpm blower that will work for me when I am in low range need 6 foot blower, do you know of any art thanks kurt






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 12-19-2003, 18:29 Post: 71730
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I think what Art is saying is that a 20-gpm hydraulic motor is roughly equivalent to a 20hp pto. There are some formulas that give exact results, but 1 gmp is close to 1 hp.

So, you might think of the pto hp requirements for various width blowers. I know my 5' blower can lug the engine in deep snow at pretty slow ground speeds with 24 pto hp. 20 hp seems pretty marginal for 5' blowers but would be fairly limited for most 6' blowers. Running the 3ph would demand additional flow if it runs from the same pump.

The only blowers I'm aware of that are geared for speeds other than 540 are for higher speeds and the rotation may be backwards, so not much help there. Quite a few large regional fabricators make blowers and most use OEM gearboxes. I think there'd be a chance that a fabricator could find an appropriate gearbox and put it in one of their blowers. There might be some help there and maybe a dealer would know of a fabricator in your area.






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