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 01-07-2003, 07:11 Post: 47081
Kevin b
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Hi,
I live in the snow belt of NY state and I am building a home with 500-600 foot long gravel driveway. I am looking to buy a Ford 9n or tractor about that size. My question is what is better? getting a 3pt snowblower or plow? Will the snowblower dig into the diveway? How much of a difference does a rear mounted plow make over a front?
Any help or ideas is greatly appreciated.

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Kevin






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 01-08-2003, 08:21 Post: 47148
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With that model tractor I would say to stay with a blade. Those tractors have a transmission driven pto and hydraulic system, that means to push down on the clutch it stops everything. I to live in NY in a snow belt and I would not own a blade to do my snow removal. Blowers are the best for here as you soon run out of places to pile it.






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 01-08-2003, 13:26 Post: 47170
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as Art touched, how much snow, area to work with, and finally tractor and budget. I use a back blade, but aslo have a fel if the snow piles get to high. Were I live we usually get about 4-6" in a good snow so the big piles are not much of an issue for me. Just another note, this is one of the funnest tractor activities for me.






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 01-08-2003, 18:53 Post: 47180
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Yes even though it's freezing cold,blowing,etc it is fun pushing snow around with my Cub & a blade-now shovelling the roof thats another story






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 01-09-2003, 17:44 Post: 47234
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I TO LIVE IN NY , AROUND ALBANY. I HAVE AN OLD F 350 4WD WITH A 9FT FISHER SPEED CAST AND ABOUT THE SAME LENTH OF DRIVEWAY SWINGING BEHIND MY HOUSE. WITH ONLY 4 1/2 FT OF SNOW FALL I HAVE RUN OUT OF PUSHING SPACE. I WILL BE BUYING THE FRONT MOUNTED SNOW BLOWER FOR MY JD 790 BEFORE NEXT WINTER !!!!! BLOWING IT INTO MY YARD SO I WONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH MELTING REFREEZING ISSUES.






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 01-09-2003, 18:32 Post: 47236
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When push comes to shove in heavy snow conditions the blower is the definite winner. On a tractor the size of yours without live pto, you will be real dissapointed. Blowers take lots of horsepower even to move slowly into deep snow, so a live pto is a must, you also need to blow a path at least as wide as your tractor on the first pass thru then you can take half width passes. I have an 8ft. blower on a 100 hp. tractor w/live pto, and I still have to slip the clutch the first pass thru in deep snow to let the blower keep up. Be real careful where you aim the chute as small rocks etc. become missiles that break windows, dent siding, etc. Hope this helps.






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 01-09-2003, 19:25 Post: 47241
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We all love using our tractors but...for anything over 3-4" deep that is the least bit wet you'd be better off just buying an old 4x4 or something along that line with a snow plow. I plow commercially here in SE Michigan and it is amazing how heavy snow can be. I had a 9N up until last Fall (have a new NH 33D) and wouldn't even consider using either tractor for plowing. The 9N is only 2wd which means you would have to plow driving backward (and it's a killer on the neck and back)--driving forward may work for the light, powdery stuff but not heavy snow. Also driving in reverse will cause the blade to "submarine" no matter how good the hydraulics--which will cause you to dig in to the gravel and make tire ruts from spinning about every few feet. Going forward and you now have no down pressure so the blade will just skip along. Another thing is, up here we let about 3-4 inches build up on gravel, drive on it to pack into the gravel and let it freeze, then plow it always keeping a crust of snow --otherwise in the Spring your yard will be peppered with gravel, and now you have to buy and spread new gravel. Buy a truck. If you have the money, buy a power V-plow as opposed to a standard straight blade--that way you can literally scoop up the snow into piles like at the end of the road and by the entrance. V-plows are about $1000 more but worth it. I show one on my website if you are curious.






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 01-14-2003, 20:40 Post: 47520
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just to put in my $0.02 worth about snow removal. I live in northern minnesota and have blown , pushed ,bladed, and shoveled snow , i have found that the problem with 3 point blowers is that they blow snow and if you dont have a cab on your tractor a fair amount of that snow ends up on you ,rear blades dont work to well if you get over 4" .allot od people up here have snow buckets (wider and lighter than a dirt bucket) for thier loaders and that works well but it still isnt any fun going out a 5:00 am when it is -10 F outside with no cab to protect you from the elements ,so i recomend if you are set on using your tractor for snow , get one with a cab. i think the best way to remove snow is to get a 3/4 ton 4x4 truck with a good plow and a good heater ,just remember to start out wide , and if you have to you can always use the tractor loader to push the banke back if you get an exceptional year of snow hope this helps.






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 01-15-2003, 07:15 Post: 47534
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I think of live PTO as almost essential for a 3ph blower. When I stop the tractor I have to run the blower until it clears snow off the auger or the chute clogs. I guess raising the 3ph before stopping is an alternative but not a very good one. I'm not sure how many reverse gears a N has but my Ford 1710 has 4 which give decent control of ground speed.

My working ground speeds range from .8 mph, which still isn't slow enough for very heavy snows to a bit over 2 mph. The tractor may be willing to go faster in reverse with a working blower but I'm not. For a gear tractor it's good to have a bunch of reverse gears.

I do the blowing w/o a cab bit. For a 3ph blower, I don't think a cab without a rear defroster would be a very good solution. Despite the blowing in the wind problems, I wouldn't trade my 3ph blower and loader bucket combination for any other tractor mounted equipment. My Ford weights about 3,500 lbs. with the blower and loader. It has 4wd and unloaded turf tires. I don't need chains for the work but I sure do need 4wd, and I'd probably need chains if I depended on a plow or bucket.

Blowers require less traction than blades and generally turfs are better than ag tires on ice. An N-tractor with ags and chains and a plow might get by but I don't think I'd want to depend on it for plowing deep snow. There'd probably be a lot of 'shovel' work with the bucket needed.

A blower or a blade will tear up a gravel drive before freeze-up. A bucket rolled back and with the lift floated works reasonably well.






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 01-21-2003, 06:59 Post: 47864
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I dont know what your budget is, but I would think seriously about buying something as old as an 'N' for a primary use tractor. I too live in upstate NY, and for the price of a decent 'N' (3500) you could buy a newer ford 2000 or 3000, or a Massey Ferg 135 which would give you more power and a live PTO.






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