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 10-31-2000, 22:04 Post: 21072
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 blade vs. FEL for snow removal

Need your experience. I am building on 10 acres...will have an approximate 800 ft gravel drive. As I make plans for a compact tractor purchase, what implement makes the most sense for snow removal and or driveway maintenance.....a front-end loader or a back blade? I would guess that I don't necessarily need both. Am not considering a blower for snow.






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 10-31-2000, 23:00 Post: 21075
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Unless it is just a mowing tractor, a front end loader is the most useful thing that you can have on your machine. You will use it for everything. SO you have to have the front end loader as your primary tool. Then you have to have something on the back of the tractor to balance the weight of the front end loader. Back blades are about the least expensive form of weight that will mount back there. Hardly more money than a weight box. You can get a usable blade for less than $200. But when you find out how useful that they are I bet you will go looking for a back blade that angles, tilts, and has swinging offset....and these features do run the cost up.






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 11-01-2000, 08:28 Post: 21085
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 blade vs. FEL for snow removal

I'd say both loader and blade are useful. I believe there are some lengthy discussions on this subject in the archives here. I know people do fairly long drives with loaders, so it can be done. However, I find that the snow doesn't clear very well off the front of my loader bucket, and I bog down if there's much snow. A blade just works much better, and a blade with angles can push the snow off to one side. On the other hand, it's hard to get through the winder without using a loader to stack some snow. You can't always keep pushing it back with a blade. Loaders also are good on gravel before freeze up. The bucket can be curled up and floated so it rides on its bottom and won't damage a drive. Of course, a good blade can be tilted and back dragged to do the same thing. Myself, I use a 3ph blower, because I just like blowing the stuff 30 out in the yard and never have to worry where I'm going to put it. However, I wouldn't want to be without a loader as well.






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 11-01-2000, 10:20 Post: 21088
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I don't completely disagree with the responses, but with my 600 ft gravel driveway (for 32 years), I would not be without a front blade that has hydraulic lift and angle. I now have a 7ft western plow mounted on a JD4300, and it is a blessing compared to the effectiveness in snow of an FEL and/or a back blade. Backing up to plow snow was not be my idea of fun. Finding a used 7 ft meyer or western plow off a truck to go on a compact (I used a JD420U two-cylinder for many years with an old plow off a jeep) is not too expensive. An FEL is a great tool for a new acreage as well as a back blade. However, I do not use my back blade for much, when the snow plow also works so well at dirt and gravel moving and smoothing tasks.






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 11-01-2000, 11:40 Post: 21091
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 blade vs. FEL for snow removal

i have used bot to care for my drive part gravel, part cement, over the past years, i think they are complimentary pieces of equipment, and would not want to do without either of them. the blade allows you to move snow, the bucket allows you to stack snow. you can push or pull snow with the blade easily, you can move snow if you have repeated snowfalls and it starts to pile up where you have pushed it with the blade.

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 11-01-2000, 13:59 Post: 21100
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While a front blade is probably the best choice, it is also a more expensive choice. I went with a back blade for about $170 for snow [I drive forward], but it is too lite for doing the drive IMHO. The heavy duty blades that weigh a lot more cost a lot more [$650 for a King Kutter]. From previous threads it seems to be a draw between a rear blade and a box scraper for driveway work.






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 11-01-2000, 18:09 Post: 21112
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If you can afford to, I would get the FEL with a skidsteer style release bracket and bucket. This allows you to easily remove the bucket and install a plow in its place. Add remote hydraulics for power angle of the plow and you have a great snow fighter with the ability to easily install bucket back on machine to move piles of snow.






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 11-01-2000, 22:11 Post: 21130
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Kay--would you please briefly describe how you mounted the Western snow blade on the front of your JD4300--this sounds fantastic since these used blades can be found easily in the spring. Thanks Mike S.






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 11-01-2000, 23:52 Post: 21137
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Be happy to. Because I wanted to be able to quickly drop the snowplow, in case I needed to use the FEL, I decided to use the belly mower brackets, designed another bracket with square tubing to hold the lift cylinder, and attach to the A frame of the snowplow (I bought the short Western A frame). When detached, everything stays with the plow. To hook up, just drive into the plow bracket, tilt the bracket up (pivoting on the belly mower brackets which stay with the tractor) and fasten with two bolts through the front weight bracket (same one the FEL attaches to). Couple the three hoses - one for lift and one each for the hydraulic angle cylinders and away you go. No need to buy the extra set of controls (I don't have a belly mower).
If adding a snowplow to the FEL, it extends out several feet in front of the loader arms, and at least the JD blade for the FEL is not very wide. I think 7 feet is minimum when angled and plowing snow. I only need to now add some hyd. flow control to slow down the movement of the angling and lift cylinders. There is no down pressure on the blade, only gravity.
I hope this makes some sense.






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 11-02-2000, 23:20 Post: 21178
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kay--thanks for your detailed description of how you mounted the Western snowplow to your tractor--some great ingenuity. In fact, this appears to mount up easier than the OEM JD hydraulic front blade on my JD955. There are usually a number of Western snow plows for sale in the spring. Thanks for your heads up. Mike S.






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