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 02-15-2016, 09:47 Post: 194529
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Since I got such good response with my last question here is another.... Shibaura SU 1540, has a tiller that seems like it was installed when the tractor was new. can the rototiller be taken of and some sort of a scraper (blade) be installed ? or do I just need to buy a tractor with an actual 3 point?






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 02-16-2016, 14:19 Post: 194540
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The way you are asking this it implies this tractor does not have a three point hitch. Looking on the internet it looks like it does come with a 3 pth. Are you able to raise and lower the tiller, if so think it has a three point hitch on it. If it has 3 pth there will be two arms (normally flat steel about 1/2 thick and 3 or so inches wide (tall mounted on the tractor) with linkage that runs to them from shorter fatter arms to lift the lift arms. Then in the middle about same plane as the top arms you will find the "3rd" arm pinned to the tractor and the top arm to the tiller. Those are you connection points. Now if the tiller has been on there for a good while the pto shaft will be a pain to disconnect most likely. You probably will be best to let the pto shaft pull apart (smaller shaft slides into larger one and moves to allow for the length changing as you raise and lower the lift. Then you should be able to see the pto shaft on the tractor. Would suggest you begin with oil it real well and letting it sit for a few minutes. Most likely there is a push pin that locks the shaft on and must be pushed in to move the locking part where it will come off the pto "shaft" on the tractor. You may need to take a light hammer and tap the pto gently to break it loose and even the pin you push in. While at it inspect the joints on the pto shaft for being worn and loose. If so replace the parts. If not sure take the shaft with you to tractor shop and they can do the work or sell you the parts. If you have never done that would suggest you have it done by someone who has. You do not want it to come apart running at full rpms. hope that helps.

If you are new to tractor go in youtube and type in your tractor and see if any videos on it pop. At least look at some on small tractors with tiller or rear blade or such and it may help you. I will say I find many of them helpful but they do not beat reading manual and using common sense. kt






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 02-16-2016, 21:04 Post: 194544
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Now that was great help, thank you. Youtube, duh! the 3 point on this is weird, center arm is a chain.So when the tiller is raised you put the link where you want the height. I will snap a picture tomorrow.






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 02-17-2016, 09:10 Post: 194545
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The benefits of the chain as third arm are:
You lost or damaged the true 3 arm.
You want the implement to be able to flex UP going over high areas or backing up on high areas.
Allows a tiller or mower to follow un-level ground.

Disadvantage is very simple: On a pto driven implement as the implement is raised above the pto shaft being level the distance between the implement and the tractor's pto shaft gets shorter on most tractors. It is very possible to damage the implement, the pto shaft connecting the tractor and the implement and the tractor itself. OH yeah! Want to ask how I know? Ok I took a friends advice on rear mower for yard and ended up with jammed gearing in transmission.

For me I only want fixed 3 arm on anything. May be something out there that works safely and better with it but I have not used it.

Being new to tractor let me make a suggestion, be careful here but lower your tiller all the way and measure the length of your pto shaft (pick any point on the shaft ends to use just keep using it for this) and write it down. Then raise the tiller till the pto shaft is level and measure it and write it down. Now raise it fully and do the same. Think you might be surprise how much that varies and realize the pto shaft is made up of two parts, one sliding in the other and it much over lap enough when at the long point to be safe and have enough shaft taking the load not to snap or twist but able to allow the two shafts to slide together for the shorter length.
Please be careful with pto shafts, many have been hurt and killed by being caught in a rotating shaft. Just search that. If you even hear a noise coming from any pto driving implement that is load and not normal you cut the PTO ASAP.

Not trying to scare you just think, no short cuts and have fun and get your work and task done. Using a tractor to me is joy. kt






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 02-17-2016, 09:41 Post: 194546
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Enjoying this tractor, fits in most peoples back yard and with garden season around the corner I am planning on being busy.
Neat thing was that the 4 wheel drive had broke, was able to buy the tractor for far less..... I work in a big shop and all we do is make gears and sprockets... Smile been there so long that the company made them for free.
If you ever need hard to find gears or sprockets get a hold of me and I might be able to help.
Thank you for all your help.






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 02-17-2016, 16:54 Post: 194560
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That sounds like a good employer. No doubt you are a good employee. You know this but bears reminding you, walk anywhere you will be tilling the first time. Look for metal post driven in the ground, large rocks if you have them there and so forth. Also nails or such for damage to the tires.






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