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 03-26-2000, 00:00 Post: 14196
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 Ford 1900 (By Shibaura) 4 Wheel Drive Doen't Work

I recently purchased a Ford 1900 (Made by Shibuara) Four Wheel Drive. Thirty horsepower. The tractor has only 600 hours of use and is about 20 years old. The tractor run perfect and all other mechanical features work fine. When the four wheel drive selector is engaged the drive shaft turns but still no power in the front wheels. It does not make any noise. Is this an easily corrected problem or is something more serious involved. Any solutions are appeciated.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14202
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 Ford 1900 (By Shibaura) 4 Wheel Drive Doen't Work

Unless your tractor is equipped with 'locking' front hubs like a 4x4 pickup the front drive shaft will ALWAYS turn whether it is in 4wd or 2wd. The front wheels will turn the shaft from the rotation as you travel. The only way to really tell is to lift the machine up and check if the gears really do engage or not. It could be something as simple as the internal shift linkage out of place or the shift fork bent. On the other hand, does your machine have turf tires on it, we had a lot of machines around here (Toronto) that a local City Gov. used to own that had no working front drive anymore. It seems some bright employee thought $300 for a 212/80R-15 (front turf) was too much so they put 185/75R-15's from car on them instead. In about 200hrs of use the front drive mechanism was TOAST. Kubota refused to warranty them so they auctioned them off with the front gears missing. Give more details, maybe we can help. Best of luck.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14203
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Thanks for the quick response. The front tires have lug type farm tractor tires on the front, same as the rear.

I had thought the drive shaft should turn all the time to, however, when I shift the 4X4 lever to the out position, the drive shaft quits turning. When I shift it in it turns. Evidently, that is telling us something. Its something in the front Hub thats not engaging or the drive shaft would be turning all the type, just by the rotation of front wheels. Any additional thoughts appreciated.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14208
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 Ford 1900 (By Shibaura) 4 Wheel Drive Doen't Work

You are right that the driveshaft SHOULD be turning all the time. However if it is not, then yes, the problem is in the front end. This is not a god thing, but it is not always serious either. It has been known for the pinion on which the gear rides to fall out of place if the retainer was not installed at the factory properly. Do you know anything of the history of this machine? Try the dealer nearest the seller, or look for a dealer's sticker on the machine itself. It is not unknown for someone to be facing a big repair bill to dump the machine and buy a new one instead, if this is the case the dealer will have already diagnosed the problem, and may have the parts in stock in anticipation of getting the job. Best of luck.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14209
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Thanks for the reply. I knew the front wheel drive didn't work when I bought it. I couldn't go wrong on it. I only paid $3000.00 and got a grooming mower and heavy dual 3 point blade. It is a very nice tractor except for the frontend. It sat outside and the paint in faded. I got it from an apartment complex and the fellows there didn't know much about the tractor. It was there when they took over.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14214
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 Ford 1900 (By Shibaura) 4 Wheel Drive Doen't Work

Look for a sticker from the dealer that ORIGINALLY sold it, chances are thats who (if anyone) looked at it when it broke. There is very little in the front-end that can go wrong, the most common thing is the universal joints, if you turn the front wheels full to one side then hit the gas they will go very easily. They are a pain to change but not impossible.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14217
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 Ford 1900 (By Shibaura) 4 Wheel Drive Doen't Work

Could be a broken axle; put it in gear and engage the 4 wheel drive. With the motor off,jack up one wheel at a time,if one turns that side is broke, if they both turn your're broke in the central part of the differential or, as Murf states, it's not all there.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14218
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Thanks for the good info guys. I'm going to jack the front end up and see what I can see from there. I appreciate all the help.






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14223
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I posted earlier on your other post in Mechanical Matters....in any case I was wondering, if you are new to tractors, if maybe you were looking at the pto shaft and engaging the pto lever. If the guy you bought it from didnt know much about it and the stickers were missing he might have showed you the wrong lever.

I was wondering this because I have a Ford 1500 and dont recall off hand being able to see the drive shaft...I think it might be enclosed...and they are the same basic tractor. Cant run out to check tho cause the tractor is at camp.

This post will be exceptionally embarassing if you do know where the PTO shaft is Smile

But just in case you don't on this series tractor the 4wd lever is a much smaller lever to the right of the PTO lever.

Good Luck, pulling the wrong lever is the simplest fix of all Smile






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 03-27-2000, 00:00 Post: 14225
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Thanks Kim for the reply. I wish it was as simple as the 4 wheel not being engaged. I'm pretty familar with tractors I grew up on a farm, but haven't did any farming for 30 years and we didn't have four wheel drives then. The PTO lever is located on the left side under the seat. It does have a two speed PTO. I'm not sure which position is the 540 though. Forward or to the rear. If anyone knows which way would be helpful. The four wheel drive level is located in front of the seat on top of the transmission. Thanks again.






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