HST questions 
: Other Tractor Brands  -- Other Tractor Brands Discussion Forum and Review HST questions : Other Tractor Brands -- Other Tractor Brands Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index
New As Posted | Active Subjects



www.emerichsales.com - New & Used Equipment
          View Tractors For Sale!


www.partsbynet.com - Lawn and Garden Equipment Parts


Bernardsville Landscape Lighting
Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Other Tractor Brands Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 09-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 7709
Pete R



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 HST questions

Hello. I'm still looking at what tractor to buy and recently rented a Teramite 20 hp gas loader/backhoe. Here is my question with respect to the hydrostatic operation:I figure that the HST would operate similar to a gear tractor in low range when I press the peddle just a little bit. However, this rental just seemed to stop when digging into a large pile of stone sand. I had to kind of floor-it, wiggling the bucket, etc, to get a bite. But, i'm confused. Advancing the peddle is like shifting into high gear. Why, when just with a little peddle it doesn't walk right into it, like supper-low on my truck?Maybe it was just beat from heavy rental use? I also had a very whiny noise. After 8 hours it was kind of annoying. As much as I think HST is the way to go, maybe gears aren't that bad either. With gear, you would need a convient way to shift into reverse like some of the new tractors have.Thanks. Pete Reinhardhanks.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 7712
MichaelSnyder

TP Contributor

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 0
 HST questions

Pete,Sounds to me like the unit was low in fluid. My wheels spin long before the hydro quits. And if traction is good, the hydro pulls the motor down, similiar to a gear tranny. Sounds like it was low in fluid. Surely not a good example what a good hydro can do.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 7715
Doug



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 HST questions

Pete,I think what you need to do is go to your local dealer (whatever color you choose) and try out a HST with a front loader to see for yourself what it is like and whether that is the right choice for you. It probably will be a whole lot better than the terramite.Good luck, Doug






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 7717
dsg

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Franklin, Maine
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 528
 HST questions

Hi Pete; If you live in Maine, you are welcome to come try out my JD 755 hydro in my small gravel-pit. Usually at a dealer one doesn't get to put the tractor through the proverbial paces. If you could find an owner of a hydro that will let you try it out in a real world situation for an hour or so, I think it would give you a much better idea. I would ask your dealer for some names of owners. I do think hydro is the only way to go.David






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 7727
Larry



Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: St.Davids
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 0
 HST questions

Pete,I don't know much about a Teramite but I do know about hydrostat drives. Hydros are different than gear drives. With a gear drive you are constantly connected and when the tractor runs out of power it stalls. With hydro drive you are supplying a given amount of fluid pressure that will stall under load unless additional pressure is asserted. Pressing harder on the foot pedal is not the same as shifting to a higher gear if the load varies. I have a JD318 and JD4100 and I was bothered by the whining sound at first. Hydros are different but worth the cost as they allow infinite speed control with varying amounts of foot pressure. Still it sounds like you may have ran into a bad one.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 7733
Jason MacKenzie



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 HST questions

Pete,There is nothing fun about spending a day clutching on a gear tractor. However, if I were to go with a gear tractor, I would only go for one that has Sync Reverser or Power Reverser... (a throw of a lever, forward or reverse) But, Nothing compares to Hydrostatic Drive on a Compact utility Tractor.. Sounds like you definatly had a beat terramite on your hands.. Hydro isn't like using gears at all, the only things that would be similar is that you have "RANGES" on a Hydro.. A B C on my JD4200.. A Range is a very strong powerful range, Breaking Piles etc. B Range is still a pretty powerful medium range..Mowing,Lighter Loader work etc.. C range is basically a Transport Range.. C Range is the Range that makes the most whining noise under stress.. Actually now that I think of it, you may have had a perfectly good Terramite, but you may have been in the travel range all the time you've had it.. not much power there. But when you are in A or B range doing Loader work, the deeper you push the pedals, the more power you are applying.. Can't get any easier than that can it?






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 7735
PaulB



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 HST questions

Pete - The offer by dsg goes for me too. If you live in Central New York (syracuse area ) e-mail me and come try out my little Kubota. I really, really resisted buying hydro ( I wanted to fulfill my boyhood fantasy of being a real farmer with a real tractor, you know how that is ) but I went for it at the recommendation of this tractor board in part, and I would NEVER go back to gear.good luckPaul






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

 09-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 7742
art



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 HST questions

pete, the people who wrote back I believe are right, I'm a dealer in central N.Y. and would be glad to show the differances in gear to hydro to you.there are normally 2 to3 ranges in hydro drive tractors. In digging conditions normally low or second range is best. high range is meant as a traveling range. the unit you were using might have been low on oil, if multi ranged in the wrong range, or just not built for what you wre doing. There is new terminalogy out there called pick and carry. IT was first used with skid steers and is meant to pick loose loads and carry, NOT DIG! It doesn't mean people won't dig but it is not at it's best doing that. With a hydro if using the machine to it's fullest you dn't need to spin your tires to fill your bucket but yes your hydro will moan some, less if in the proper range. be more than glad to throw another two cent's out if need be just e-mail






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Stumble This

Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Other Tractor Brands Forum

Thread 7709 Filter by Poster:
art 1 | Doug 1 | dsg 1 | Jason MacKenzie 1 | Larry 1 | MichaelSnyder 1 | PaulB 1 | Pete R 1 |




Most Viewed

+ Task Master Tractors.Are they any good??
+ Branson Tractor Review
+ Mahindra are they good review
+ Branson vs. Century
+ What about Mccormick tractors?
+ Leaf vacuum for catagory I three point
+ New to me Bolens Tractor
+ Mahindra - Starting problems
+ TYM and Terramite Tractors
+ FarmTrac 300DTC

Most Discussion

+ Task Master Tractors.Are they
+ TIME TO START MAHINDRA DISCUSS
+ Need help from all you PROs
+ Branson vs. Century
+ TYM and Terramite Tractors
+ Honda Compact tractor
+ blue book for tractors
+ Mahindra, Kioti, Brason and Cu
+ seatbelt survey
+ Branson Vs Century

Newest Topics

+ 1983 Allis Chalmers 6140 4WD
+ taishan tractor help help
+ parts dougfeng task master trooper 426E 4X4
+ parts dougfeng task master trooper 426E 4X4
+ foton 404 3cyl
+ rhino tractor
+ Foton ft404 black diesel splat out of exhaust
+ taishan 304 diesel timing
+ Branson 4220 racing problem
+ taishan ts304a injection pump info













Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines