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 07-28-2003, 13:08 Post: 60312
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I just bought a Bolens tractor from my mom. going to pick it up tomorrow. It is a small diesel 4x4.

I want to change the oil and coolant. I drive a Powerstroke and use Shell Rotella T. Is this oil ok for the tractor? Where can I get an oil filter?

Also what brand coolant?

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 07-29-2003, 05:09 Post: 60354
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It'd be very good to have an owner's manual and find a dealer or mechanic who's worked on them.

There could be some problems with 'in general stuff' but here comes some. In general, almost all reasonably new diesel tractors can use any diesel rated engine oil of appropriate grade. Appropriate grades are generally what work for trucks in area and time of year. Most tractors will use any universal transmission/hydraulic oil intended for tractors. Usually the same oil goes in the front axle as well. Filters can be a problem but NAPA and some box stores have filter cross-reference tables that include tractors. Sometimes people have trouble finding hydraulic or fuel filters but usually engine filters can be cross-referenced.

Coolant too comes in diesel rated types. Most any low-silica type but any coolant from a tractor store should be appropriate. Coolant in diesels should be changed every two years, which is sometimes not stated in manuals. Old depleted coolant can damage an engine every if it hasn't been run much.






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 07-29-2003, 07:29 Post: 60361
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Thanks for the reply. I pick up the tractor today. Still unsure of the model number but I will find out today. She called last night and has all of the manuals for it - can you say surprised.

I've been running diesel trucks for over 10 years and have always used the low silicate, just didn't know if there was a difference for tractors.

Once again, Thanks for the help






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 07-30-2003, 07:58 Post: 60442
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Picked it up today. It is a 1979 G174 3 cylinder with a bunch of implements.

Runs great and looks great (once you removed the barn dust from it)






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 07-30-2003, 08:48 Post: 60446
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Hi - saw you post here and on the BolensTractorClub on Yahoo! Sounds like you got a very nice deal -- hope you thanked your parents. Couple of answers to your questions and new questions for you:

Before I answer you question on filter crossovers, we need to know what tractor you do indeed have. Bolens sold a 2-cyl G174 from 1977-1981 and then replaced in with a 3-cyl G174 which they sold from 1981-1991. The fact that you mention it is a 3-cyl and referenced the number of hours on the tractor, leads me to believe it is indeed a 3-cyl, as the 2-cyl models did not come with an hour meter (was an add-on option). So if you have a hour meter built into the dash, then I suspect you have a 3-cyl, and your tractor is newer than you think.

If you give us the Iseki model number (2-cyl TX1500F vs 3-cyl TX2160F) or desribed your hood decals we can narrow down the year further. Early model 2-cyl G174 came with red hood decals with balck lettering, while some late model 2-cyl and all 3-cyl G174s came with several different style of multi-tone green hood decals.

If you do indeed have a 3-cyl TX2160F G174, there are cross-overs for all the 3-cyl filters (some of the 2-cyl flters are tought to find) -- you can find crossovers made by Wix/NAPA or Fram at your lcoal auto parts store, or I can post back cross-over here if you like.

There is also a Yahoo! Group targeted specifically for the Bolens Iseki deisels, which you may want to subscribe to, as this is the forum most specific to these tractors. See link below:






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 07-30-2003, 09:01 Post: 60448
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Thanks for the reply. I'll visit the link.

It is a 3 cylinder. 3 exhaust ports, 3 injectors. It has green stickers on the hood with G174 on the front lower sides. My manual says it is a TX1704 (G174). It does have an hour meter on the dash. Inside the manual it has specs for TX1500F. You said that is a 2 cyl..........My dad wrote the oil filter number 51064 in the manual and that fits a 3 cyl. I know I saw 3 injectors and 3 exhaust ports so the manual could be wrong.

The only reason I said it was a 1979 is that I have the original sales invoice (all the manuals for the implements, sales invoice, finance papers, etc) all came with the tractor. On the invoice it has the Date Ordered as 08/07/79. Notice it is the ordered date.

here are the wix numbers that I've been able to find.

air 46270
oil 51064
fuel 33264

are these correct.

Once again, thanks for your help.






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 07-30-2003, 09:22 Post: 60451
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I did not realize that Bolens built a diesel tractor. From the picture on the yahoo web site; it looks like a real nice compact tractor. Especially with the hoe and the loader pictured. Who manufactured the diesel engine?






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 07-30-2003, 09:24 Post: 60452
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my engine is an Iseki diesel.

It is a real nice compact 4wd tractor. Just have a lot to learn about it! It's old but starts/runs/drives/looks great so why spend so much for a new one!






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 07-30-2003, 09:35 Post: 60453
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I hear ya brother! If it ain't broke don't fix it. If ya got a good thing and it works; stick with it!






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 07-30-2003, 09:42 Post: 60455
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Yes, those cross-overs are correct for the TX3 3-cyl models -- see Post #53645 I posted earlier on this board (Do a search by my userid). Not sure about your ordered date, as the 1979 models had red decals. It sure sounds like you have a TX3 3-cyl G174 -- the TX1704 was yet another Bolens model number for the same tractor; i.e. G174 = TX1704 = Iseki TX2160F. The side radiator panel decals with "Diesel" and "G174" are indicative of a early model TX3 3-cyl G174, so you probably have one of the very first 3-cyl models, although the late model TX2 2-cyls also had the same decals, which makes all of this real confusing.

As for you manual, not sure what you have. The Bolens model number and Iseki model number for the 2-cyl G174 was the same: TX1500F. The TX3 3-cyl model numbers are listed above. I am pretty sure you have the 3-cyl from your description, but there is one more check you can do to make sure. Post back all the model/serial numbers on the plate located by the shifter, and also the model/serial number on the left hand side of the bumper frame that is bolted to the engine -- this location should have the Iseki model number. Perhaps you have a original version of the manual when they were in the process of converting over the line from 2-cyl to 3-cyl. You may want to ensure you have the right manaul for your tractor, regardless of what was given to you, as there were some major changes between the TX2 2-cyl and TX3 3-cyl familes. See the link below for a great source for Bolens manuals including the Iseki Diesels

As for your charging system problem, these tractors have a charging system with an alternator and regulator, much like a car (not to be confused with the old start/generators Bolens had on some of their gas machines) Any good auto electric store should be able to rebuild the alternator if you think that is what it is.

If you need any parts for you tractor, contact me vie e-mail and we'll see what we can do.






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