At first they were all Jinmas. But then they started adding higher horsepower Fotons. Not sure where the dividing line is, perhaps around 40hp. So "who makes Nortrac?" depends upon the specific tractor you're looking at.
As far as whether or not they're a bargain, it's purely a matter of "you get what you pay for". Except for stuff required to satisfy EPA requirements, the rest of the tractors are still basic; 1950s-1960s era tractors wrapped up in new paint and decals. For the mechanically inclined, they're easy to work on in the field with basic tools and basic skills. Parts are relatively inexpensive. But expect a need to keep on top of the maintenance, especially preventative maintenance. These tractors are only as good as the guys that keep'em running.
It's meaningful to note that the single largest group of Chinese tractor bashers are the ones that can't be bothered to lift a wrench, then complain bitterly when something breaks. The second largest group of bashers - have never actually owned or operated one.
A good place to ask would be the Chinese Tractor Owners Association.
I'm curious why the apparent owner of a Japanese tractor consistently offers that same advice to nearly everyone that posts to this Chinese tractor forum. Can you justify why you don't you seem to feel they'd get the answers they're looking for HERE?
Because the CTOA is a helpful site that does not seem to be well known.
Greg, you're THE or one of the top helpers on this site, bright, knowledgable, multilingual, clear, patient, so I really should have said "ANOTHER good source of info is ...."
Greg in auer's defense, realistically how many Chinese tractor owners are there here?
Hmmmm. Two guys are at a Ford dealer; one owns a Chevy, one owns a Ford. The Chevy guy says to the Ford guy “a good place to go would be the Ford dealer in the next town”. What’s wrong with that picture…….?
Because the CTOA is a helpful site that does not seem to be well known.
Similar to the Chevy guy at the Ford dealer, I'm curious how a Yanmar owner can reasonably quantify any particular Chinese tractor forum as more "helpful" than another.....? Are there Chinese tractor owners in your Yanmar forum regularly directing posters to other Yanmar sites? Unless there's a hidden agenda here, I just don't get it.
Greg;
Maybe I qualify as a China tractor basher with my feelings toward anything not built in the USA. As hard as I try it is almost impossible to buy anything here that is completely built on our side of the drink. I'd have a hard time flying "Old glory" then parking a foreign car beside it.
No, I'm not too lazy to work on anything within my talents and still do my own light maintenence on my farm stuff, a handicap situation prevents the more rugged stuff.
As you said the Asian built tractors are 1950's design with things I don't want to go back to. After growing up with the old crude Farmall, two banger Deere stuff, I consider it kind of a reward of retirement to drive a nice Deere with the high dollar gozmos that I know will fail, but I'm willing to pay the Deere guy to fix it.
Frank.
Hmmmm. Two guys are at a Ford dealer; one owns a Chevy, one owns a Ford. The Chevy guy says to the Ford guy “”. What’s wrong with that picture…….?//greg//
Greg. Greg. Greg. Come on man--what are you talking about? Normally I have great respect for your opinion but this is completely off-base. Your comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with my comment.
And as far someone cannot have an opinion about something that they've never owned or operated is bogus.
It's called empirical data. It's called research. And from my experience an owner of a lesser brand is less inclined to be truthful about their purchase. It's called buyer's remorse. The other side of the coin is inflating or misrepresenting or plain lieing about it. It's called fish story.
Like a good friend says about opinions: opinions are like butts. Everyone has one and they all stink.