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 06-12-2002, 19:03 Post: 39514
Dan G.
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 Weights verse filled tires

Gentleman I need some help quickly!
My negoiations for my TC40D is down to the wire. Part of the deal is weighted wheels not liquid filled. My reasoning is that there will still be some bounce left in the tire. I need this because of a terrible back problem. I am comparing to my Ford 3000 with filled tires which I'm SURE in not as ergonomic as the 40D! My question is will I get a lot of bounce while driving from place to place with the 16LA FEL loaded? I figure it would be a problem with Super Steer since it is longer but I'm not going with that option. I need some input from 35, 40 and 45D owners with the pros and cons of weights or calcium. Thanks in advance for your help! Great site!






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 06-13-2002, 06:47 Post: 39520
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I'm not sure there would be much difference in bounce or ride between a tractor with wheel weights or one with 75% liquid fill. I did a quick web search on 'tractor seats.' There seems to be quite a few choices of specialty seats--ergonomic design, air suspension etc. Maybe a better seat would be more effective at managing back problems than the type of ballast would be. Physical and occupational therapists who work in farming areas probably deal with this sort of problem frequently and might even have a solution, but I guess that takes a trip to the doc. Iím just getting over my first serious set of lower back spasms in six years or so. I canít blame this one on the tractor, and Iím aware that thereís really no such thing as a solution. Better seat might help though.






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 06-13-2002, 08:16 Post: 39523
Dan G.
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Tom,
I'll have to try out the seat when the tractor arrives. It should be great with all the adjustments available. Anything has to be better than what I have now!






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 06-13-2002, 09:10 Post: 39527
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 Weights verse filled tires

I have a little tractor (JD4100), so I don't know if I can help much. My experience is that the "bounce factor" has more to do with tire pressure than what is in the tire. I currently have filled tires and I can soften the ride by lowering the pressure to 10-12 lbs. but I recently discovered that road conditions have a lot to do with it also. I thought I had things adjusted pretty well and then I took a short ride on a washboard gravel road and thought I was going to shake my self out of the seat. There is no tractor tire or pressure adjustment that would have helped there. The only thing to do was to find a lower gear and creep out of there. I do know where you are coming from. When docs look at my back x-rays they tell me I shouldn't be able to walk. On a more practical note, I intend to drain my tires, clean up the rust on the rims, and install wheel weights before next winter. I believe they are more practical, easier to handle and much quicker to get back to work in the event of a flat tire. And in my case, they will provide more weight then liquid filled tires.






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 06-13-2002, 16:05 Post: 39534
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Couple of thoughts:
- Make sure you have sufficient counterweight on the 3pt when moving with a load in the FEL. Put on a little more than you think you need.
- Tires make a difference. We had a string some months ago about tire pressure and tire types. R4's are industrial with 6 or 8 ply side walls -- very stiff/no give. Turfs are big balloons with better cushioning capability. R1's maybe in-between. I found the pressure in my tires as delivered to be at the high end of recommended range, as did others. Drop the pressure to where you get a little belly on the sidewall where the tire meets ground -- could be as low as 5#.
-- Follow your manual's directions for adjusting the give in the seat suspension. Your weight should drive the seat down but not bottom out when you hit a bump.
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 06-13-2002, 16:09 Post: 39535
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Oh, about your question --
I use and like rear wheel weights -- 2 on each wheel, 110# each. don't know if filled tires are any better for ride though.






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 06-13-2002, 18:48 Post: 39537
Dan G.
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That's good info! I had the tires rotated on two of my trucks today. The tire managers comments were interesting. (I'm also assuming this is where my dealer takes them to get filled ) If you have a puncture, you must pay to drain and refill the tire along with a new tube. If it all leaks out in one spot kiss the pasture there good bye for a couple of years! But if the weights are not enough, calcium can be added. I'm told that the back ends are little light almost to a fault on the Boomers.
I ordered my TC40D this afternoon with the weights and R-4's. (got a SUPER deal) The AG tires tear up too much since we are solid clay. The turf tires will loose traction in a heartbeat once the clay gets wet. R-4's are heavy and easier than AG's on the pasture. Guess we'll find out soon enough!






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 06-14-2002, 18:48 Post: 39562
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I think you'll find that the seat which comes with your 40D is night and day difference from what you are used to on your old 3000.

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 06-17-2002, 08:51 Post: 39612
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For the best ride and action of the tires for comfort and traction, filled tires are out and wheel weights are in. PERIOD. I've seen to many different tech sheets on this for there to be any movement of my thoughts or ideas. Only your pocket book can make a difference and for the long run that levels out and becomes a plus for you if longevity is a factor.






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 06-17-2002, 15:25 Post: 39626
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 Weights verse filled tires

Back when we were debating the windshield washer fluid ballast idea, I read some manufacturers handbooks on tractor tires. At least one stated that their recommendation was for wheel weights rather than fluid loading. No explanation that I recall.
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