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 01-12-2007, 01:57 Post: 138722
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

I am considering purchasing a TC40 or 45 tractor for general all around farm use and was wondering if industrial (which seems like most come with) or AG tires would be better for traction. The tractor would be used for possibly things like pulling out bushes, small trees, loader work with some done on rocky ground, and perhaps some rotovator use, a small amount of plowing maybe, etc.

I am used to using wheeled tractors with Ag tires but maybe industrials would be fine. I'm wondering what others think? Thanks.






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 01-12-2007, 06:26 Post: 138727
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

Using in the field enviroment you will like the ags much better.

Industrials are more for hard packed type surfaces and tend to slip/spin more on soft or wet field use.






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 01-12-2007, 09:32 Post: 138736
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

If I didn't use my TC29 for lawn mowing, I would definitely put ags on it. The R4's are an OK compromise, the ags are better for gardening and farm work; they just tear up the lawn too much.

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 01-12-2007, 09:39 Post: 138737
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

With our clay soil (northwest oregon) the R4 industrial tires do very poorly dry or wet. When dry the soil turns powdery and the tires spin easily, when wet the tires pack with mud and they're like driving on slicks. Check out my pics to see what packed R4s look like. I swapped the dealer with R1 Ag tires and am much better off traction wise, but they do damage turf so you won't want to drive them much on finished landscaping.






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 01-13-2007, 20:04 Post: 138798
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

I've got R-4's on my TC33D and they're okay, but I'm seriously thinking about AG's. In mud R-4's load up, and don't have the biting abilty to overcome objects like buried roots and rocks. But that's not to say I haven't been unhappy with them--I've been happy. Now if I could only stay away from mud.

Has anyone used AG's versus R-4's on dry beach sand--I'd like some input on that. How about wet beach sand?






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 01-13-2007, 22:15 Post: 138800
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I've never had R-1's on a CUT, but would have to agree that if most all your work involved agricultuire (plowing, disking, pulling trailers, etc.) on tilled soil conditions the R-1's would be first choice. The R-4's aren't a perfect solution to every situation but seem to be the best compromise far as having some traction in most all conditions plus not being damaging to turf, etc. The first couple years that Cut's were around all came with turf's, I'd venture to guess that today you would have to drive halfway across the state to find a new one with out R-4's. The local Deere dealer told me a couple years ago that he won't order a CUT with turf's or ag tread unless he has it sold before hand, the last one he ordered with turfs he had for two years before it sold. I did see one an owner of a sod farm ordered from them that had those real wide turfs, and I can understand his need for them the sod has become big business around here in the last few years. Anyhow, there is no "perfect" tread to fit all situtons, it just dependends on you most iontended use. Enjoy what you buy. Frank.






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 01-15-2007, 10:50 Post: 138815
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Over the years we've tried every possible idea of dealing with mud, about the best thing we came up with was generous amounts of silicone preservative applied to clean dry tires on a regular basis. The stuff generically known as Armour-All, although there are countless other products from other companies that are basically the same stuff.

We buy it in bulk from the guy that does my vehicle detailing, it comes in 5 gallon pails and we just pour it into pump up weed sprayers.

It makes the tires so slick most of the mud falls out of the treads as the tire rolls, it does however also promote the ttire flinging great gobs of it as you accelerate a bit too, so beware flying mud chunks!! Wink yeah right

As for sand, I have waaaay too much experience at that! It's a real pain, the best tire for sand, wet or dry is a full turf tire, the type normally referred to as a "pillow block" turf tire, they look a lot like a car tire. The R-1's (Ag's) bite in well, but God help you if you spin them, they will bury themselves faster than you can believe, especially in dry sand. The key to working in sand is to take it slow & gentle, any tire spin will cause big ruts in short order. Also, whenever possible avoid turning the steering wheels unless you're rolling, and avoid repetative tught turns, or shortly you will have a mess from the ruts in the sand.

R-4's are pretty good in sand, dry or wet as long as you can maintain traction, but mostly because of the floatation issues.

Best of luck.






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 01-16-2007, 07:32 Post: 138846
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 Tires---Industrial or AG?

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I am considering purchasing a TC40 or 45 tractor for general all around farm use and was wondering if industrial (which seems like most come with) or AG tires would be better for traction. The tractor would be used for possibly things like pulling out bushes, small trees, loader work with some done on rocky ground, and perhaps some rotovator use, a small amount of plowing maybe, etc.

I am used to using wheeled tractors with Ag tires but maybe industrials would be fine. I'm wondering what others think? Thanks.






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 01-16-2007, 08:43 Post: 138849
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wayne, someone pointed out ag tires are not to be used on finished lawn often. Over the years I have used farm tractor with ag tires and rear finishing mower to cut five different yards. For these yards when soft from rain, stay off. Other wise no problems. Fully realize some grasses and/or soils would not support that, so as carpet cleaners say, try an area that is not seen, first.Smile With ag tires the front tires have done more damage for me in turning too fast.

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 01-16-2007, 10:02 Post: 138859
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One point I forgot to make was the rubber the tires themselves are made from.

R-1 (Ag.) tires are made from a relatively soft rubber compound, not nearly as soft as Turf's are, but certainly a LOT softer than R4's are. This is part of the reason R4's are a poor choice in winter, the cold makes the already hard rubber even harder. However, if you use Ag type tires for an industrial use, or on pavement or hard surfaces, the tread will wear very quick.

They make Ag. tires soft so you don't tear lugs off when working them, and to make them ride a little nicer. If you do go with Ag's be sure to spec. non-radials, either bias or nylon construction.

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