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 02-10-2000, 00:00 Post: 12685
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I have a 1987 vintage Ford 1910 with a loader. The loader works much slower than the newer Ford / New Holland tractors that I have tried, I was told by a dealer that the older Ford hydraulics were slow to respond when they were new. My question is can I update my pump with one out of a newer tractor such as a 1920Ford or are they totally different animals.Thanks in advanceRay Sicina






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 02-11-2000, 00:00 Post: 12691
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Don't know, but doubt it. The 10 and 20 series tend to be quite different. At least the repair manual for my 1710 only covers only the 10 series.

The pump on my 1710 supplies 7.8 gpm, and the Allied 195 loader works plenty fast for me. If I'm in a hurry, I run the tractor up to PTO rpm.

If the hydraulic system is OK, it's possible the loader is too large for the tractor. Strong loaders have large cylinders which require more fluid to be pumped.






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 02-11-2000, 00:00 Post: 12699
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Ray, Does the 1910 have a separate hydraulic pump for the power steering? If not, then read on. This is used to be commonly known information, but might be new to some folks. Here goes:
When any tractor has power steering and only one hydraulic pump to work all the 3pt, steering, and accessories (loader) it will typically be designed to have a priority valve that favors the power steering. At low to medium RPM the priority valve sets aside most or all of the flow in case you need to steer. For many years the cure has been to to add a separate hydraulic pump for the loader. The separate system pump is either run off the front of the engine or sometimes by the PTO. If you don't want to do this, everything still works OK, but you either have to rev the engine and/or accept slow hydraulics.






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 02-11-2000, 00:00 Post: 12714
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Thanks for the info guy's. The loader on the tractor looks like the standard Ford unit, a 770A, I also looked and the pump does also supply the power
steering unit also, It sounds like I will have to live with it since I'm not
interested in trying to set up another hydro pump and to be honest its not
all that bad.
thanks again,
Ray






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 02-11-2000, 00:00 Post: 12715
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Your 1910 has only one pump for the power steering, and loader & hitch functions. Slow loader and or hitch action can be caused by one or more of the following: Plugged filter, inadequate oil supply, worn pump, faulty priority valve, faulty power steering relief valve or faulty main relief valve. Only a thorough flow and pressure test of your system will reveal its condition.






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 02-12-2000, 00:00 Post: 12725
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Roger: Thanks from me too. I had heard the priority valve thing before. Maybe if I hear hydraulic system basics often enough, some of it will stick.






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 02-15-2000, 00:00 Post: 12812
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I have a 1910 FORD in which the power steering went out.Fixing it was simpler than I thought. I removed the priority valve on the tractor frame to the right of the fan. The piston was hung-up in the cylinder and very fine emery cloth to both did the trick. It's much like rebuilding a slave brake cylinder in a wheel. A small enough 'honer' on a drill would be perfect for the cylinder but probably not necessary. It was clear after I did it that you don't really have to take the valve off the tractor. Just disconnect the hydraulic lines, the ends and the springs and piston come right out. Obviously clean up real good and reassemble with some hydraulic fluid. Your piston may have got hung-up at different spot inside the valve.






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 02-15-2000, 00:00 Post: 12840
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A nice trick, RCH. Thanks for the info. It's going to go right into my box of good mechanic's tricks. I suspected that it was that easy, but never have tried it.






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