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 11-01-2005, 19:42 Post: 118771
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I'm looking for a used compact utility tractor (25 HP or less to do light landscaping/mowing on 6 acres). I stopped by an equipment rental store, which also sold the Simplicity brand of tractor. The dealer said the Simplicity brand was really a Massey Ferguson, just with different decals. I certainly know of the MF.

Does anyone have any experience with the Simplicity brand?

Appreciate your response.

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 11-01-2005, 20:45 Post: 118772
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The small MF tractors are Iseki, made in Japan. Whether AGCO the parent company of MF owns part of Iseki or not is not known. AGCO sells the same line as of small tractors as Challenger, AGCO and MF.
Simplicity manufactured one of the better lawn tractors. The only Simplicity in the line which is a subcompact is the Legacy XL. It looks like a garden tractor on steroids and a north american design. MF sells a GC series. Which is a larger tractor. The simplicity might use Iseki components, by I doubt it is built by Iseki.






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 11-02-2005, 06:42 Post: 118781
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Not going to claim to know exactly what the Boardroom ties are, but AGCO and Simplicity have a business arrangement of some kind. Massey Ferguson is a "marketing label" that belongs to AGCO. AGCO and Simplicity market some of the same products under different names, but are seperate business entities.

Your dealer had something a little backwards for the sake of making you feel like you were looking at a tractor. It is true that AGCO markets the exact same tractor as the Legacy, as both an Agco and MF. The Simlicity Legacy is not a MF, Simplicity manufactures the Legacy, right here in the USA, and sells them under their own label and under AGCO marketing labels. A Massey Ferguson is really anything but any more, as the previous poster pointed out. The MF is just a marketing label that belongs to AGCO.

By the way, Simplicity makes an excellent product. The people in Port Washington do a great job at what they do. The quality of the legacy is every bit as good as the Gree, Orange, and Blue tractors discussed on this board. But, The Legacy is not a Sub-compact yet. It truly is the best garden tractor you can buy. The problem Simplicity has is that you can get a sub-compact for the same price. They re-designed the Legacy a couple years ago, but stopped short of turning it into a sub-compact. But, best garden tractor you can buy.






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 11-02-2005, 12:03 Post: 118800
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Beagle and Peters--

The model that I looked out had a FEL, MMM, and a rear PTO/ class 1 3 point hitch. As you say, it looked like the Green, Orange and Blue models I have looked at. The price was higher than any of those models, but maybe my price info is a bit out of date for the other models.

If I understand correctly, the Legacy's performance would be equivalent to the corresponding Green, Orange, and Blue models. Is that correct?

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 11-02-2005, 12:23 Post: 118802
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...But, The Legacy is not a Sub-compact yet... Beagle said.

I will concur after looking at them as well. They are a large and well made garden tractor, but a sub-compact utility tractor (Orange, blue or green) is a miniature farm tractor. There is a huge differance. Look closely and you'll see.






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 11-02-2005, 13:12 Post: 118804
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From the pricing you could get something like a Kioti CK-20 which is more than a sub compact tractor.






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 11-02-2005, 13:20 Post: 118805
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We had a Legacy at one time, FEL, Rear PTO, 3-point, etc. This was before the XL model came out, but after looking at the XL, they made some valuable modifications, but fell short of making it a sub-compact utility tractor. I would put it a grade below the BX or 2200 series JD for size and capability. I would put it a grade above the rest for quality. They are an extremely well built machine, but the features don't match up. The hydraulic system alone is lacking to use as a utility tractor. The model we had used electric clutches for the PTO engagements, front and rear. The hydraulics might have been improved along with pto engagements, but these are a few features you should take a good look at before you decide.

Simplicity was a great company to deal with. The people in Port Washington were very helpful and knowledgeable. Just make sure you match your needs with the machine. And, besides the Kawasaki LC engine option, they are American Made.






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 11-02-2005, 14:39 Post: 118811
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The Simplicity is a nice machine, and it really fits somewhere above a garden tractor and below a sub compact, at a sub compact price. When I looked at one at a dealer it was apparent that it was not quite where the NH, Deere and Kubota are in the sub compact market.






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 11-02-2005, 21:38 Post: 118827
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Wasn’t Simplicity purchased by Briggs & Stratton over a year ago.






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 11-03-2005, 05:52 Post: 118829
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To clarify a bit, the Massey Ferguson brand is part of the AGCO family (along with AGCO, Challenger, Fendt, Hesston, New Idea, White, Glencoe, and others) but Simplicity is not. Simplicity does make the lawn and garden tractors that AGCO sells under the MF and AGCO brand names. Once you get to the sub-compact GC2300 and CUTs, the tractors are made by Iseki in Japan. AGCO does not own Iseki but there has been a working relationship between the two companies for quite some time.






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