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 01-14-2009, 19:46 Post: 159462
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anybody have any success (lets say longer than 10 years)of dipping fence posts into used motor oil to protect from soil contact? I would be interested in heating the oil vs not, time requirements, other processes. And before we get to far into the ethical concernes, yes I know this wouldnt be advised by the EPA.






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 01-14-2009, 20:25 Post: 159463
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For decades I've painted creosote on. But I understand there's a movement to restrict its availability.






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 01-14-2009, 21:59 Post: 159465
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Kline, hopefully you're what the US EPA considers "commercial use" as they say, in part "...there is no registered residential use."--that cut from their webpage below.

Auer: Also on that webpage it details Health Canada is/was working together with the US EPA to study and come up with guidelines. etc. for creosote.






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 01-15-2009, 07:22 Post: 159472
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I will ask the EPA the next time I talk to them. Like most of you guys out there, I talk to the EPA about 3 time a week as they inspect my property for little violations like fence posts soaked in oil.






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 01-15-2009, 07:56 Post: 159474
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My bad. So Sad






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 01-15-2009, 09:03 Post: 159477
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Don't cedar fenceposts last longer than 10 years without EPA concerns?






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 01-15-2009, 09:35 Post: 159479
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Our family do a lot of work with the utility companies, both telephone and electric.

If anyone knows how to make a piece of wood stuck in the ground last it's them!

I started using their method years ago, fence posts I put in 20+ years ago that way are still doing fine.

The trick is the dirt, or rather the lack of it. Don't back fill the posts with earth, use "pea stone", a very small round stone, about the size and shape of a pea, thus the name. If you put a layer of it on the bottom of the hole, then drop the post in, and then fill the hole the wood is not touched by wet soil anywhere, and can't absorb any moisture.

I've been out with them replacing poles (that got broken in a storm or such) that were placed long before I was born and that are still just fine when we remove the stub to replace it.

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 01-15-2009, 13:53 Post: 159486
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The green treated posts and poles are a joke, they rot off at ground level in ten years. I thought I had hit the jackpot when I found new creosote treated railroad ties at a lumberyard a few years ago. I bought a bunch of them to build a cattle yard fence, hired a fellow with a bobcat with a post pounder attachment to set them. After he left I used a chainsaw to level the tops up, after I trimmed them the creosote was maybe a half inch in the ties. If I remember right the genuine railroad ties were soaked to the center. It turned out OK tho the fence was still standing when we sold the farm in 07.

Murf, I've watched them set light poles a time or two when the replaced them past the farm, but I don't recall any pea gravel being used. They do however come past every few years and dig down a couple feet around the poles then wrap a tar paper looking fabric around the pole extending a foot or so above the ground. They used to give the farmers who's land the poles went past the used ones. The tops where the cross arms were attached were usually rotted, but the part that was in the ground was usually like new. I've still got a few around they gave me, but they don't do that anymore, probably some liability issue. Enjoy the winter, only 24 below here this morning. Frank.






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 01-15-2009, 14:14 Post: 159488
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Enjoy the winter, only 24 below here this morning. Frank.



Well way up here in Cannuckistan we're not quite that cold, it was only -20 F (-30 C) this morning.

Poor ole Deputy Dog stuck his nose out the door and stopped dead in his tracks! I guess he decided if it was that cold out he wasn't going to stick anything else out the door either! He high-tailed it back to the fireplace instead. Crazy dog held his water till nearly 11am when the little lady went out to the garage for more firewood. He went out about 3 steps from the back door, lifted his leg and raced back inside.

He even stayed home and missed 'coffee break' with the boys. It's pretty bad when he'll pass up a visit! Wink yeah right

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 01-15-2009, 16:08 Post: 159492
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I guess that is a no? No experience with dipping fence posts in oil?






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