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 07-30-2004, 13:25 Post: 92297
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 new diesel fuel in 2006

With the new lower sulphur diesel fuels coming in 2006 do I need to worry about my Kubota not running well or even being damaged by the new fuel.

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 07-30-2004, 14:14 Post: 92301
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I thought low sulfur fuels were already here.






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 07-31-2004, 00:36 Post: 92353
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Hopefully Chief, Murf or other with more knowledge will chime in here.

I have an add on to go with it. I just got hooked up with the local Southern States to buy "Off Road Diesel". I thought the only diffecence was no road tax, but when I went to the pump it was labeled "High Sulfur, Off Road Diesel". Is it ok to run this in a modern, CUT, diesel engine?






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 07-31-2004, 01:07 Post: 92354
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 new diesel fuel in 2006

Current diesel fuel is low sulfur diesel fuel. However, the congress has mandated the phasing is of ultra low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel. A rule which takes effect in 2006. In a nut shell......as sulfur compounds are refined out of diesel fuel oil; so is the "lubricity" of the fuel itself for the most part. Either the new ULSD will have additives to address this issue or current diesel engines will have to be modified or user added lubrication additives added. Fuel lubricity is particularly important in older design diesel engines as the injection pump and the injectors themselves are lubricated by the fuel. The newer designe "Common Rail Fuel Injection Systems" are not as requiring of lubrication as the older designs since injection and pump timing are controlled electronicly and the injectors are fired electronicly as opposed to pulse pressure.

Here is some "poop" on diesel fuel:

http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/L1_toc_rf.htm






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 07-31-2004, 09:23 Post: 92366
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THANK Goodness, the good old government is going to take care of all of us.......






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I wouldn't worry about ULSD too much. There are HUGE legacy issues (existing engines out there) that mush be addressed with any change in fuel formulation. Backwards compatibility is a must considering an average engine life of at least 20 years. The trucking industry has a powerful lobby. Any legistlature would surely take legacy issues into consideration.






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 08-10-2004, 21:24 Post: 93188
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So from an engine lubrication point of view, High Sulphur is Good?

Its being removed because it causes Acid rain I guess.






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 08-11-2004, 09:23 Post: 93226
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The sulfur lubricated the injector pump and the top end of the engine.

I was at Wally World the other day and saw that Power Service has changed its formulation to include some sort of injector pump lubricant. They advertise it as a fix for ULSD.






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 08-11-2004, 09:29 Post: 93228
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I was doing some research on Bio-Diesel and came across a story about the lubricating effects of Bio-Diesel, apparently as little as 5% Bio-Diesel added to the regular Dino-Diesel will will DRAMTICALLY improve lubricity, between 100% & 500%.

The hydro-electric authority in the City of Toronto has been experimenting with a 90% (Dino) / 10% Bio-Diesel blend in all their trucks, apparently the only side-effect so far is that the exhaust smells like french fries making the workers constantly hungry.

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 08-11-2004, 13:03 Post: 93245
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 new diesel fuel in 2006

Oh great, we are going to replace one health hazard with another (emphysema vs. obesity), hopefully I can stay off the fries.






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