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 06-14-2004, 22:27 Post: 88534
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This has probably been answered somewhere in this discussion, but a search on subject turned up zilch. Here's my question - I have about a thousand feet of gravel driveway here in VA and it develops potholes at the rate of a few each year. Before I got my 3830 (FEL and BH), I paid to have it scraped and regravelled every few years. Now that I have the capability, what is the best implement to use for maintaining this type of driveway - a box blade to loosen old gravel and a simple 3ph back blade to smooth or just the box or just the simple blade? The driveway is mostly flat with several curves, about 300 ft of minor side ditching needed.






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 06-14-2004, 22:52 Post: 88537
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Ditching. That says grader blade to me.

I think a grader blade and a chain harrow or similar drag mat will do the what you want done.






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 06-15-2004, 05:33 Post: 88544
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The box blade will have a tendancy to dig up the base material. You don't want fist sized rocks mixed in with the pea gravel on the surface. I would go with a grader blade, but get the "feet" that attach to the back. They work somewhat like "training wheels" and should help keep it from digging in.






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 06-15-2004, 08:23 Post: 88553
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You are stuck in the middle of two problems.

A grader blade will do a better job of routine 'polishing' and will be usefull for a variety of other tasks.

A box blade, especially one with scarifiers will do a far better job of serious make-overs on the driveway and will be required to dig out potholes. If you just fill potholes they will come right back since the material all around the pothole is super compacted from the wheels colliding with the rim as they roll through it. In order to remove them they must be ripped up and repacked uniformly.

Based on what you are wanting to do, I would have to say that a box blade with scarifiers and a hydraulic toplink will be your best bet.

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 06-15-2004, 08:50 Post: 88558
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I learn something from this board every day. I thought it was just a hole in the dirt. Thanks Murf.

I guess I don't live in pot-hole country. Our version is the washboard that develops on the up-hill stretches of the gravel roads. Something best fixed by smoothing rather than re-digging.






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 06-15-2004, 09:28 Post: 88565
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Actually Mark, you're about to learn two things today. Laughing out loud.

The washboard is just a wide, skinny, open-ended pothole. It is caused by people trying to a) accelerate too fast up a hill, or b) brake too hard coming down a hill. Both do the same thing, just in opposite directions.

Acceleration causes 'power hop' (mentioned on another thread) where the power to the wheels exceeds the traction they can develop, the wheel spins a little, then grabs, over & over. This causes the ground to be bumpy. Then the next time a wheel passes this spot it loses traction while in the air, spins up a little, the car slows down a little, then it drops back to the road surface spinning and the process starts all over again.

Downhill is just the opposite, the braking causes minute skids with the same effect on the road surface.

If you do not remove the washboard completely you end up with a road surface which is unevenly compacted. This will allow the washboard to come back a LOT faster.

Stabilizing the road surface with something like CaCl wil go a long way to preventing the situation from developing too.

The best way to prevent washboard is to just educate the drivers, you accelerate BEFORE a hill and almost coast up it, then slow down at the top and basically coast down the hill keeping braking to only the bare minumum.

We maintain a LOT of private roads in cottage country around Southern Ontario, the ones that have educated road users have seen a dramatic reduction in required maintenance.

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 06-15-2004, 10:14 Post: 88570
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Makes sense. I knew what caused them.

I guess I have a "soft" gravel drive. Basically crushed rock over sand dune. It has a rise of about 1 foot in 10 and we get daily visits from the city handicapped bus. I have to run something over it (usually a chain harrow, spikes up)two or three times a month to smooth it out.

It is only a year old and I laid down too much rock, but as it gets older and more compacted I may need to consider churning it up a little. Thanks for the insight.








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 06-15-2004, 12:17 Post: 88585
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If you can get limestone chips, small pieces of crushed rock no bigger than the size of a Smartie, spreading a thin layer on top will often stop that happening. The sharp irregular edges sort of lock together making a very hard, stable surface.

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What's a Smartie?






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 06-15-2004, 12:34 Post: 88590
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Oooops, my Canadian flag is showing again, it's a small M&M but made with dark milk chocolate.

Sorry about that, eh.

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