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 04-06-2004, 10:38 Post: 82303
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After 2 hours of reasonably heavy work, I parked the BX23 in the garage, and noticed the left rear tire beginning to buldge. In 20 seconds it was looking like a baloon! I couldn't imagine what was going on; turned off the engine and grabbed a fire extinguisher (why I don't know now). In another 20 seconds the thing exploded! To my surprise there was water in the tire (with a tube). I surmise that the dealer had put something volatile in the water that maybe the heat from driving started it off?? It was probably the heaviest work I'd given the tractor since the beginning (28 hours), and the weather is the warmest it's been (though only about 70 degrees).

I was very surprised to find the tire filled; had been following the ballast/wheel weight discussions and decided if I needed more stability I'd get some weights. I'm about to call Kubota dealer on the warrenty. Any ideas? Shouldn't they have told me the tires were filled?






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 04-06-2004, 11:17 Post: 82308
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It sounds to me that you had a cut, chop or partial puncture that caused it to blow. Using your tractor is not going to raise the tire temperature any significant amount other than the ambient temperature increase from the garage to sunshine.

I'm assuming the tire blew on the sidewall. Your profile indicates that you have rocky soil. Sharp stone edges or foreign objects can cut a tire. What type of tire do you have R1(farm/agriculture) R3(turf) or R4 (industrial)? The industrial tire design is thicker and stiffer.

Did the tire blow real bad or is it in one piece that you can push/piece it together to see if you can find external damage.

The dealer should have informed you if the tires were loaded, however, the dealer may not have known either.

If no apparent reason for the tire failure can be seen, you may have a chance in getting it replaced or someone to share in the cost. Won't find out until you ask and are persistent.






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 04-06-2004, 12:13 Post: 82316
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The tire took about 40 seconds to explode once I noticed it enlarging. It was more on the tred than the sidewall, its a special tire for the BX, and is a nylon 4 ply tubeless rated for 20 psi max.

I think what happened is that it was inflated to the max pressure at the dealer at 1200 ft elevation (or more likely in LA at sea level), then brought up here to 6000 ft altitude without releaving any pressure. There was snow on the ground then. I expect we were at the threshold of a failure (maybe a defect)and it finally went. The right back tire measures 22 psi.






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 04-06-2004, 14:33 Post: 82322
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Dealers and manufactures often over pressure the tires for better riding on the truck. They seldom tell the owner to check the tire pressure.
Like you said the tire pressure was likely too great and the tire probably had a bad cord from the manufacturer. Buldging is indicative of cut of lack of a cord in the side wall.
He should replace the tire under waranty or the tire company should.
The filling of the tire has no factor on the buldge. In the south I have heard stories of the farmers filling the tires with propane.






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 04-06-2004, 15:33 Post: 82325
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OK, I'll bite. Why would you want to fill your tires with propane?






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 04-06-2004, 18:42 Post: 82339
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Hope they don't smoke






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If you look back in the TP archives is more than one discussion here. It certainly make no sense to me, but a number of farmers ran propane on the old tractors and had large tanks to supply them. I guess they figured that it would not freeze and add some weight. To wax Foxworthy you may be a red neck if.......






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 04-07-2004, 12:58 Post: 82390
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I couldn't find any punctures, think it was a weak tire and just enough pressure to blow it apart. Pictures added to my gallery.






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Definately a defect. It is hard to tell from the pictures is the cording separated from the rubber or is there no cording? It looks like there is no adhesion of the cord with the rubber and therefore no reinforcement. A cut in the tire should never do that no matter what.






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That is very unusual for a tire to blow like that without having been punctured. Anything is possible.

Back in the 50's and early 60's Farmall for one offered tractors that ran on LP gas. Recently I saw an "M" for sale with that option. Back in those days, regular leaded gas was 15 to 20 cents per gallon and LP was much cheaper. Most everybody had fuel oil for heat so LP gas was in excess. Oil wells were still being drilled and weren't being capped.

I was just a young kid at the time so I'm not clear on the whole picture. Some farmers had oil wells in their fields and oil companies gave it to them for free.

I've never heard of putting propane in tires to load them. It was a common practice to dump some in a rear tractor tire when changing it and setting it off to set the bead. You needs lots of air volume to set the bead on those bigger tires, the ignition thing worked.






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