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 11-28-2002, 19:46 Post: 45511
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 New 30 series l3430 vd JD 4310

I am comparing the new Kubota l3430 Grand L 30 series to a JD 4310, I like the real metal on the kubota but still waiting to see them

any imput on the kubota vs the deere would be helpful

I owned a 4310, liked it but end up selling. Now I am looking again and the kubota looks good.






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 11-30-2002, 07:07 Post: 45540
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There has been a lot of posts already about the capacities and capabilities of the new Grand L-series. The 4000 Deeres also have a lot of posts on already so it shoould be easy to find the info you are looking for here.






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 11-30-2002, 09:35 Post: 45548
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Just Returned from the Tsukuba Japan Kubota plant. saw the whole process of assembly, testing,& shipping of "30"series from soup to nuts.
Very impressive. Some features of the new "30" series have been in use in Japan for several years now. No guinea pigs in the N.A. market. They made it clear Kubota is COMMITTED to building the number 1 tractor. Also saw them building New Hollands in this plant. No B.S.!! looked like a 30 series painted blue & black. Who is building DEERE??






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 11-30-2002, 19:32 Post: 45563
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Deere is building deere, I think-Yanmar engines which I belive in. But mybe they are not building them. Tell me what you know, why the L3430 over the 4310. I am considering both

I like the real metal fenders,hood and platform of the kubota

The user features are my concern, do the loaders come off and on as easy as the deere. Can you keep a 72 in belly mower on while the loader and hoe are on
Does the how go on and off easy?

Deere dealer showed me a video with the units compared and the eyhro on the deere seemed to determine which gear was right and make the change without stopping on a hill, Both the NH and Kubota had to stop and shift into a lower range. The showed this pulling a load up a hill. Anything to it???






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 12-01-2002, 08:11 Post: 45584
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I often have to look into the dictionary to double check definitions and spelling. There is a difference in assembly and building. Yanmar is deeply involved with the construction or building of the JD compacts. Not all of the tractor is built by Yanmar though as many of the final assembly is done in the US with a few pieces of Deeres US design being added. The front axle, sheet metal, and electronics to name a few.






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 12-01-2002, 08:28 Post: 45587
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 New 30 series l3430 vd JD 4310

As you can see Art, assemble and built mean the same thing. Now if you're talking about some kind of equipment 'built' or 'assembled' from US parts, you can forget about it. It's not out there any longer and hasn't been for years and years. So when someone says "built in the US", don't take it so hard

build v.
built building
1. To make by combining parts; construct.


assemble v.
assembled assembling
1. To bring or gather together.
2. To fit together the parts of.

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 12-01-2002, 19:40 Post: 45610
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I see where some companies are now using "originated in the USA". Boy doesn't that leave the concept open to the imagination.






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 12-01-2002, 21:19 Post: 45611
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The 4310 is built in the Augusta Georgia plant. As pointed out above, it uses the Japanese Yanmar engine, but the main transmission is built in the U.S. by Funk, which is part of John Deere.

I have quite a bit of experience on the 4310 hydro tractor as well as some experience with various Kubota and New Holland tractors. I have found that load match function on the Deere hydro tractors really does improve the ability to get work done. When using it with a loader, it is impossible to stall the engine and the wheels just keep pushing even when the engine is at idle. With a mower, you can just stomp the pedal and go, and the tractor will vary its own speed to keep the engine speed up and operating near the peek HP level. I also have found that the Deere hydro tractors will generally pull or push loads in the middle (B) gear range that I have to shift to low range on the Kubota or New Holland tractors to accomplish.

While not everyone needs it, the cruise control is also very nice on the 4310. It maintains a rock steady speed up and down hills as long as the load isn't too great. With load match on, the cruise will let the tractor slow down when then the load increases beyond a certain level to prevent stalling. This is really nice when mowing large areas. Just set cruise to the fastest speed comfortable for the terrain and let the tractor slow itself down when you hit heavy grass. It is possible to stall the tractor when mowing if you hit a big stump or dirt mound or such, but I can't remember ever stalling it just by hitting really heavy grass.

Overall, I have become a real fan of the John Deere 10 series hydros. Having used other tractors I also see their nice features, but if I had to just flat out get work done, I would pick a Deere every time.






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 12-02-2002, 05:10 Post: 45614
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Load match sounds like a useful feature. My Ford has marginal power when power is applied to both the wheels and hydraulics, hydraulics and PTO or wheels and PTO for that matter. It certainly is possible to seriously lug my engine when it's powering several outputs at the same time. Of course, my only alternatives are to stop doing one of them or shift to a lower gear, neither of which is always convenient.

I'm curious how load-match works. It sounds sort of like a governor on a HST pump. If the engine governor doesn't maintain rpm, load-match bucks back the speed pedal. It might work some other way, but it sounds like a good idea no matter how it works.






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 12-02-2002, 05:45 Post: 45617
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John, were those all competitive models, like same vintage, same sizes and comparable features? I to have run many of the same model classes and have not found what you have found. It was unfortunate that the only new deere size that I could run to do some work with was with transmission problem that the dealer still hadn't sorted out.






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