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 09-15-2002, 09:57 Post: 42411
Tom from NJ
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 Block Heater Do I Need One?

Newbie here to tractors and diesel engines. When do you need a block heater? I live in New Jersey, our winters vary from mild, a few snow storms, to getting dumped on. We will get periods of cold weather, below 0 for sometimes for a week or so, but most times temperature are above 0. I plan on using the tractor for snow removal and will have it parked in my shed, no heat, and on my driveway when I expect a big storm. I know heating the engine is better for a diesel as far as wear of the parts go, so do I need one? I think Kubota has one for about $100-$150.

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 09-16-2002, 06:01 Post: 42456
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I believe that block heaters keep the cylinder walls warm and the head to a lesser extent, which helps starting in very cold weather.

A block heater came with my used Ford so it's a little hard for me to say if I need one because I always use it when it's cold. I can say that it gets colder here than in N.J. but fortunately it seldom snows much when it's very cold so I seldom have to start the tractor in say -30F or colder.

I only use the heater when it's around zero F or less. Above that it starts fine. After several hours on the heater, it might start better in -10F than it does in the summer. More than several hours on a heater probably doesn’t do much.

I suppose a heater is a good idea, and they do reduce wear I believe. Winter engine and TX oil, anti-gel fuel additive, and keeping the battery charged also help. Opening the hand throttle 1/2 - 3/4 also helps starting. A diesel has to spin fast to start and low batteries and thick oils slow the starter down.






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 09-16-2002, 07:11 Post: 42460
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Tom, alot has to do with age of a diesel engine when it comes to cold weather starting. We are in central NY and less than a third of our new tractors go out with a block heater. The newer tractors all seem to start better than the old ones but there are still differences. I would say it is an option, but a battery charger set up on trickle will keep your battery fresh and you will not need one at all.






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 09-16-2002, 19:04 Post: 42505
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Art,

The tractor is a Kubota BX 2200 with 70 hours on it, new 3/02. Sounds like I will not need a heater, thanks for the info.

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 09-16-2002, 19:37 Post: 42506
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If you should get a stretch of real bad weather down the road sometime, a magnetic heater on the oil pan all night can suffice to add just enough heat to the engine to help it start. I used them for years along with synthetic oils in Anchorage. My brother still lives there and that is about all he uses on his Kubota for starting in cold weather. Art is right on point with the trickle charger too. I have seen temps cold enough to reduce even a good battery to 40 percent power, and I have had batteries freeze if I didn't keep them charged, warm or both. An old Fairbanks trick is to just take the battery in the house with you at night and re-install it in the morning. But it's gotta be -45 or lower before you need to resort to stuff like that.






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 09-16-2002, 23:09 Post: 42514
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Mark didn't they sell heated battery blankets in Alaska?






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 09-16-2002, 23:11 Post: 42515
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If I were you, I'd ask some tractor owners in your area.

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 09-17-2002, 06:06 Post: 42524
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My Ford is mid-80's, which is more or less modern design, although the pre-heat takes a bit longer than many newer tractors.

Winter or summer, I want to hit the starter and have the engine catch almost immediately, the oil light to go off reasonably fast and for the louder knocking at start up to disappear quickly. I think that's easiest on the engine and having a bit of 'starting insurance' is easier on me too. Using a block heater around zero or less does that for me. The engine knocks louder and longer if I don't use the bock heater around zero. I don't know if would be worth $150 (hope that's installed) to me though.

I do have a battery blanket for when it's really cold and my trickle charger is 1-amp, which I figure could be left on indefinitely, although I only use it for 24-hours or so at a time.






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 09-17-2002, 10:38 Post: 42532
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Battery blanket? Yes I have used them but they are pretty wimpy. I suppose combined with a trickle charger and a good block heater there is a place for them. By itself it does not do much at really cold temps. I came out one morning at a measured -37 F and stuck my fingers between the battery blanket and the battery and found it cold to the touch. It had been plugged in all night. It was not as cold as the outside air, maybe 20 or 30 degrees warmer. I have also tried using the electric heating pads from the drug store with about the same results. I once wrapped a heating pad (set on high) around the exit pipe on a motor home potty tank. I wrapped all that in a wool blanket and left it plugged in all night at -15 F. It did not even thaw the ice plug in the pipe.
If it is 0 degrees you might keep your battery up around freezing with a blanket. The usefulness decreases in really cold temps.
At -60 just leave the car running all night.
At -70 some rubber compounds in cheaper tires will freeze and shatter like a piece of fine china.






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 09-17-2002, 10:45 Post: 42533
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Mark, I've got several customers with heated floors in there garage as well as houses and I think it's the only way to go. But in Alaska I think I'd do a little radiant heat on the ceiling in the garage just as a booster for the heated floors.






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