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 01-27-2008, 08:12 Post: 150789
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I own both a B21 and B1750 and have a Landprice 48" box scraper. While it is a light duty scraper, it does a good job. It does not cover the rear wheel width on the B21 however.
Kubota makes a 54" box scraper which would work fine but is is way more expensive than a Woods 60" scraper. Has anyone used a 60" scraper on a B21 or B1750? I'm not as concerned over the 3 point lift capacity as the ability of either tractor in pulling it effectively.






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 01-27-2008, 09:19 Post: 150792
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Bunnspecial,

I'm not sure either of your tractors would be able to handle a 60" box scraper. That's asking a lot of such a light machine.

You may have enough horsepower, but due to the light weight of your tractors, I believe you'll find that tire spin would be the biggest problem.

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 01-27-2008, 09:37 Post: 150793
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 B21 and Box Scraper Size

I can't say that I've seen every mis-match yet but I have seen to big of a box scraper on a tractor for it's weight. Depending on the chores, it will just mean that you won't pull a full load. We've even balanced BX22's to the full sized 48" and without a full bucket on the front you still couldn't pull a full load. I'd try a 60"!






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 01-27-2008, 09:42 Post: 150794
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I'm not as concerned over the 3 point lift capacity as the ability of either tractor in pulling it effectively.

Your concern about pulling a 60 incher is valid. A fair amount of tractive force is required to get full use out of an expensive investment like a 60" Woods. It's definitely out of B1750 territory, probably too much for the the B21 also - assuming it's still wearing R4 tires.

That said, a 54" boxblade of less expensive manufacture may be the answer for your B21. I'd still consider 54" too much box for a B1750 however. That said, Agri-Fab makes a 54" light duty. Northern Tools sells them for about $200 FOB. Probably TOO light duty for a B21 though. LandPride makes several 54 inchers. I'm sure there are others, start with the link below.

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 01-27-2008, 10:05 Post: 150799
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Bunnspecial,

I understand the need for having a snowblower that is wider than the tractor, but I'm not so sure I understand why you believe you need a box scraper that extends beyond the tires.....unless you're using it for snow removal?

Could you explain the need for a wider box blade? There may be better solutions.

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 01-27-2008, 10:11 Post: 150800
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I'm not so sure I understand why you believe you need a box scraper that extends beyond the tires.....

For somebody that's been hanging around this website as long as you, I find that to be an astounding question. Of COURSE you want a boxblade to match/exceed outside tire width. Otherwise you'll leave tire marks and compaction all over the area you're working.

Even if you match the outside tire width exactly, you're still going to leave tire marks/compaction on the turns. That's why it's advisable to have a BB that's even wider. The singlemost limiting factor is the tractor's pulling capability as defined by horsepower/weight/tires.

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 01-27-2008, 10:18 Post: 150801
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Greg_g,

It's quite possible that I have no idea how to use a box scraper properly. I'm learning all of this as I go.

I use a box scraper for filling in holes, and cutting down humps. These problems show up every Spring....due to frost heave in the driveway. When I'm done with the heavy work, I hook up to a spring-tooth drag and finish off the project with a well-groomed appearance.

I've never viewed a box scraper as being a finish tool. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.

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 01-27-2008, 10:50 Post: 150802
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Wow, so may responses so fast, you guys are great! In reference to the tire tread, you may have a point. Currently my turf tires on the B1750 are about 50" wide on the outside edge. When I use the 48" scraper, I bearly notice any tread showing. I'm looking for a solution that may not exist, a box scraper that will work on either tractor. On the B21 I don't like taking off the backhoe but my B1750 doesn't have a loader. Maybe a 30' trailer to bring them both to the job site!!!!!!!!!!!!!






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 01-27-2008, 11:06 Post: 150803
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Bunnspecial,

I have no idea how you are using your box blade, but maybe a solution would be to use a spring-tooth drag to go over the area when you're done moving the soil from 'point A' to 'point B'.

You can easily find a spring-tooth drag, or harrow to fit on the 3-point hitch, and your tractor will easily pull one that's 7 feet wide.

If a harrow won't do the job, possibly a 3-point rake will fill the bill.

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 01-27-2008, 12:19 Post: 150806
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 B21 and Box Scraper Size

I'm sure you know that traction's about tread type and condition, 2 or 4, one or two locking diffs, weights, soil type/compaction/moisture, digging depth, operator skill, and what you had for breakfast. There are rules of thumb, but as they say, individual mileage may vary. Another variable is direction: the more you can go down slope the more you can drag; the more you can repeat at right angles the less width you need.






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