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 11-17-2007, 20:52 Post: 148384
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I have 10 acres of land – generally reasonably flat. I am building a home on the property with a long (1,800’) driveway. We will have landscaping to do including moving dirt and removing small trees as well as a lot of planting. We will need to remove snow in the winter (average snowfall 6-7” per month but large storms do happen) as well as mow roughly 3 acres. We are getting a RTV900 for general use and are looking for a tractor that will be able to do the heavy stuff.

My questions are:

1. Can we use the RTV900 with a blade to clear the snow or do we need a blower on tractor? Our driveway will be roughly 1500 feet of schedule 4 and 300 feet paved.
2. the “B” series is being updated next year. I’m looking at the 2329 HSD with a LA304 loader, BH65 Backhoe and Thumb and a RCK60-29B Mower. Any comments about the new series or its application to my needs?

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 11-18-2007, 07:03 Post: 148391
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Rdb961,

I don't believe the RTV900 will handle much more than an inch or two of snow. Your biggest problem with the RTV900 will come later in the winter months, when you attempt to clear snow that is blocked in by the previous piles you created. You'll have no way of moving that snow up and over the berm you created previously. Essentially, it would be like painting yourself into a corner.

You'll need some way to lift and push the snow over the berm you created when using the blade. This has always been a problem for me, which is why I switched to a snowblower. Problem solved. No more drifts, berms, or blocking myself in. My driveway never grows narrower throughout the winter, as it did previously.

Additionally, when snow is blown, it tends to freeze in place. High winds no longer blow that snow around. I now move far less snow than I ever did with a blade.

With 1800' of driveway to maintain, I believe you'd really appreciate having a front-mounted blower. I feel this is the only way to approach the problem. Backing all the way down an 1800' driveway would get old in a hurry.

Look for a tractor that offers you the option of adding a front-mount blower. You'll need a mid-mount PTO for this, unless you opt for one of the rear-to-front conversion kits, which aren't very convenient and take up a lot of indoor storage space.

With 10 acres, you'll have plenty of room for a 30hp tractor. The Kubota B7800 would be right at home on your place.

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 11-18-2007, 09:34 Post: 148394
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I owned an RTV and it is made for scooting around on hard surfaces. They do not do soft ground or snow. There is lots of discussion in these archives on RTV issues.

I would agree that a front blower is the primo way to go, but with a word of caution: blowing snow from an open tractor seat is a cold, wet, miserable operation.

Seems most folks who start off with a blower also end up with an enclosed, heated cab. That is ok if it fits the budget, but if it doesn't you can buy a power angle front blade at a much cheaper price and use the FEL to move the berms that form later in the season.






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 11-18-2007, 10:24 Post: 148397
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RDB,

While I generally believe that most folks sell a BX model short when it comes to what it can really do, the B model would be the route you need to go.

As to removing snow, the advice you already received here is good. I have a 2nd home in Idaho that gets several feet of snow every winter and I move it with a Skidsteer with a cab and electronically activated directional chute to throw the snow where I want.

As has been mentioned, a cab is nice to have if you are moving a lot of snow frequently. On the other hand, if a cab is out of the question, then a directional chute that can be changed from your tractor seat on the go is a must, and will allow you to change the direction of the snow to eliminate most of the wind-drifted snow that will blow back onto you. Even then, you will get a lot of drifted snow on you which is not fun!

If a snow blower is out of the question, the angled blade that Mark suggested is the way to go.

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 11-18-2007, 16:04 Post: 148399
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All,

First, thanks for all the quick and detailed replies! This is more and quicker than I expected on my first ever post. It looks like the consensus is that I need a tractor for the driveway with a snow blower (cab if I can afford it).

Thanks for the help!

I’ll keep you posted.

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 11-18-2007, 16:05 Post: 148400
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RBD....6 TO 7 inches of snow a month is really nothing at all that your rtv really couldn't handle on pavement. I have a homedepot 18hp regular tractor with a 4 ft blade on the front. I have never needed chains and it pushed a lot of snow. My driveway is concrete and 200 foot long and then goes off to a circle driveway another 80 ft long plus the circle. Your rtv should do ok on the concrete but the long part....don't know. I also would think you would not need a snow blower with only 6-7 inches per month!!! Just get a front blade on the tractor of your choice and if the snow really piles up then use your loader to move it.






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 11-18-2007, 16:31 Post: 148401
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Good point. Given the cost of a blower vs. a blade I think that would be a good place to start. The B29 should be able to push well beyond 6"...






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 11-18-2007, 21:21 Post: 148405
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A few replies have kind of got me stumped here regarding the RTV and plowing. A couple inches of snow, are you kidding? I know two different guys that keep telling me that a RTV will out perform a Gator- now I have had three different Gators, but nothing else in the same class. Becuase I have never worked anything else in the class, I can't tell you how good a Gator is compared to anything else. However, my first Gator could plow snow like a Son of a B****. 12 inches of light snow with no problem- of course it would take a few passes because the snow would come over the blade.

So I am assuming a RTV should be able to do something similar. Right? Now I'm not trying to steer anybody away fron a utility vehicle as a plow, in fact, I'm getting a tractor just so I have more versitility and a plow. However, I think a RTV would be an exceptional snow plow for a quarter mile stretch of whatever it was used on.






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 11-18-2007, 22:20 Post: 148406
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Kleinchris,

You're right.

The problem comes later in the snow season, when the blade has pushed up large berms of snow along the side of the driveway. With each successive snowfall, the driveway gets narrower and narrower, because there is no way to push the built-up snow back away from the drive.

A few inches of snow is no problem for most any machine. Maybe even a foot of snow.......once or twice. After the second or third snow event, a person begins to wonder where and how to stack the snow.

With a blade, your options are extremely limited. Your only choice is to ram the berm with the blade and attempt to push it back away from the driveway. Take lots of headache pills, and get ready to spend a day in the shop straightening all the bent stuff.

Everyone has a right to try to get by with a plow or blade, rather than spend the extra money for a blower......but most people will eventually end up buying a blower at some point in the future.

I think it better to spend the money on the blower right away, and save the expense of buying both.

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 11-18-2007, 22:34 Post: 148407
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The real issue is not necessarily how much snow one gets, but how long the snow stays around. RDB said he gets about 6-7 inches per month but if it comes and usually melts relatively soon, then the issue of where to put successive snow falls is irrelevant. In this case, a blade would be fine.

On the other hand if it typically comes and keeps coming and then does not melt until the spring, then the piling up becomes a real pain and the only real (but expensive) solution then is a snowblower.

At my place in Idaho, we get snow that sticks around Thanksgiving, and doesn't go away until late March. During this time we will get 6-8 inches weekly and will get 3-4 feet as it compacts through the winter. The only solution is a snowblower....and one that will blow it 20 or more feet out of the way.

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