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 10-17-2005, 16:56 Post: 118051
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 Snow plow/blower for BX23

I just got my BX23 last week and it has been great(when I can get my father-in-law off it). I need to maintain a 1000 gravel driveway with 2 small hills for a NY winter. I was wondering if anyone had experience with this and if a snow plow was better than a blower.

For a plow the dealer recommend a Curtis 5' power angle plow w/ a quick attach.

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 10-17-2005, 18:56 Post: 118053
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I went from a f350 4x4 with a 8ft fisher speed cast to a jd 790 front mounted snow blower after the three weekly 30inch snow storms we had a couple of years ago,I ran out of room to push it.Now I have 40 ft to put it almost anywhere BRING IT ON Smile






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 10-17-2005, 19:04 Post: 118054
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If your snows are heavy and wet the 5 foot blade might push the tractor aside from the snow instead of vice-versa.

What does the dealer have against the snow plow Kubota designed for the tractor?






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 10-18-2005, 08:26 Post: 118086
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As was touched on above, is the Curtis plow the FEL mounted one?

If it is the frame mounted plow I think you will be in a mess after a few storms, you won't have anywhere left to put the snow.

If it is the FEL mounted unit that's a different story.

Money is usually the decision-maker in this arguement.

Best of luck.






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 10-18-2005, 09:59 Post: 118090
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I have the front blower on a B7610 and it is awesome. I know someone that has the B2910 with the Curtis Blade on the loader with some grade on gravel and they are very unhappy with it. Too long, too much weight out front, even with leaving a backhoe on the back, front wheels slide out when pushing.

With a smaller tractor the blower would be better, but you have gravel so you need to be careful.






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 10-18-2005, 11:58 Post: 118102
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 Snow plow/blower for BX23

I used my BX 23 last winter moving 2 feet or more of snow off a my stone half circle drive and also my folks cement drive both have 6 foot elevations from road to house. Both with the FEL and just pushed and piled it up, out of the way for the next storm. Oh forgot to mention that the John deer 318 with the snow blower got left in the barn.






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 10-18-2005, 12:15 Post: 118104
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 Snow plow/blower for BX23

I now have 2000' of northeren Wisconsin driveway to keep open. That Required the 8-1/2' Heineker plow on a '89 Chevy to do it effeciently.

BUT having used the FEL and the front mount snowblower on my BX, the FEL doen't stand a chance verses the snowblower. I don't see how a plow, weather it's mounted on the quick-mount or the FEL, would be any better with a (realitively) slow tractor. A plow needs speed to throw the snow which a tractor the size of a BX cannot deliver.






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 10-18-2005, 12:29 Post: 118107
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Dennis, did you mis-type your post?

"Too long, too much weight out front, even with leaving a backhoe on the back, front wheels slide out when pushing."

The B/H would reduce the front weight, but you said the problem was too much front weight, and the front wheels slid out.

If you have too much front weight the BACK wheels lose traction.

If the front wheels slide it's because they don't have enough weight on them.

My unit seems quite well balanced with a plow on the FEL, mind you it is also larger, and the FEL weight stays on the front wheels. The rear gets at least 750 pounds ballast, either a counter-balance weight, a 3pth blower or a box blade.






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 10-18-2005, 13:31 Post: 118108
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Murf, scratch the weight comment. As with most third hand info, the main fact is that the owner is quite unhappy with the B2910 with the Curtis FEL plow. He did tell me the front end slides out on him, perhaps he felt it was because the blade was "way" out front of the tractor and not the "weight". He has a very very steep slope on one part that even my Tundra had trouble with in two wheel drive with dry conditions. He also has a very coarse drive with large diameter stone that may not help either.

I know you are a fan of FEL blade config and I think it works well with the heftier size machines you use where it really snows ;--)

I participated in three tractor purchases last year, BX2230 with blower, B7610 with blower, B2910 with Curtis Plow. The two with the blowers are extremely happy with the purchase ( one is me), the Curtis plow buyer is not (he was not following my advice). Of the drives the little Bx2230 has the most challenging with a switchbacked drive climbing about 200 feet in about 1200ft.

It could also be due to operator technique, perhaps you could shed some light on how someone might operate this config in an optimum manner and what would be bad practice.






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 10-18-2005, 14:23 Post: 118110
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Dennis, if your friend has a B/H on the machine it will be a real PITA to plow with. It will put the weight too far back, unloading the front end too much as you describe.

There are two key issues to successfully with a plow on the FEL. If you get them both right it is nearly unstoppable, in our conditions up here at least.

First is the equipment, it's not setup right, you will never be happy with the results. The weight and it's position is critical. Too much front or rear and it wont work right. On my 4310 the front wheels get the FEL's weight. In my picture # 15 you can see that the FEL is set up clear of the ground. Not visible in this shot is the style of plow, it is a "trip edge" blade, meaning only the bottom few inches flip under when it hits something. This type of plow has a wide bottom edge, this means adjusting how high off the ground the FEL is also determines how the blade contacts the ground, just like a box blade with rear edge does. Lifting the FEL puts the blade over onto the front edge and it really scrapes. Lowering the FEL puts it back onto the rear edge and the front edge is clear of the ground, leaving all the gravel where it should be. Some rear weight is also required, 750-1000 pounds in my case. The plow must also be able to pivot at it's mounting point so that changes in grade don't apply or release load from the FEL. The only weight on the blade should be it's own mass, none of the FEL or tractor should be on the plow.

The second thing is the operator, and how the unit is handled. You are MOVING snow, not particpating in a demolition derby. This is also not a race car or bulldozer, so try to drive it like it is. Slow and easy does it. Avoid trying to start under load, even just a couple of feet to get the unit rolling before hitting a pile of snow makes a huge difference. Also, avoid spinning the wheels at all cost. Wherever possible avoid trying to do anything more than really gentle turns with a blade full of snow. Push the snow past the corner, then turn the machine, and start pushing straight the other direction.

Most importantly, take the time to learn what works best for your situation and equipment. EXPERIMENT.

I can't count the number of times I've heard "This is how I was told to do it." or "This is how I've always done it." Great, 20 years of doing something wrong doesn't change the fact it's still wrong!!!

Best of luck.






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