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 12-29-2002, 07:20 Post: 46674
Mike Lane
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

I am looking at buying a 2001 Kubota L2600DT with 40 hours on it. I intend to mow my 10 acres with it. I am told that it does not have a live PTO and that I need one for mowing.
Why is that? Can't you just spin the blades up to speed in Neutral and then put it in gear and go? Why are so many people telling me to get a live PTO?






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 12-29-2002, 08:56 Post: 46679
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I think live PTO means you have a 2 stage clutch that when depressed keeps the pto spinning but allows you to change gears.Without it whenever you depress the clutch the implement you have attached will stop working also.






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 12-29-2002, 08:58 Post: 46680
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

I don't think that would work, at least not without a whole bunch of gear grinding when you jump from neutral to a forward gear with all that transmission and cutter mass already spinning.
Many people use geared tractors for mowing with little problem you just have to understand that the forward(or rearward) motion and the blades turning begins at the same instant.
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 12-29-2002, 09:50 Post: 46684
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

Mike,
If your going to mow tight areas with a lot of starting and stopping,you will want the live PTO.
But for field mowing or a larger yard (little starting and stopping) the non-live PTO works fine.
I engage my PTO at idle,pick the gear I am going to mow in.
Gradually let out the clutch,slowly increase throttle till my mower is up to speed and MOW !
I have a 1978 JD 850 (non-live PTO)I used to mow my field,and lawn for years,worked for me !!






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 12-29-2002, 15:37 Post: 46688
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

You can live without a live PTO. Just be sure to have an overrunning clutch installed between the implement driveshaft and the PTO output shaft on your tractor. This handy gizmo keeps the mower from pushing the tractor when stopping. Available at Tractor Supply Company, etc.

I think the non-live PTO is technically called a "transmission PTO".

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 12-30-2002, 05:27 Post: 46703
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

A live one is pretty important for me. The chute on my snow blower clogs easily unless I run the blower long enough to clear snow off the auger when stopping the tractor. It wouldn't be a huge problem though. I could shift to neutral and let the clutch out to keep the blower running.

I imagine that cutters have more inertia then my blower and would tend to clear themselves if PTO power was interrupted, but live PTO still might be good. The cutter might leave 'chewed patches' when shifting while cutting heavy brush.

I have an optional TX with synchromesh and live-PTO on my Ford 1710. The standard TX has a TX driven PTO. It also has an internal over-running clutch that makes an external clutch unnecessary. The L2600 may well have a built-in clutch as well.






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 12-30-2002, 13:07 Post: 46719
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Those electric activated independent PTOs are sweet.






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 12-30-2002, 13:47 Post: 46722
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

Having had all three, I would look for the independent all things being equal. You can live with the transmission driven for mowing as long as you are not backing up a lot.
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 12-30-2002, 14:29 Post: 46724
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

"Having had all three, I would look for the independent all things being equal. You can live with the transmission driven for mowing as long as you are not backing up a lot."

Why do you say that, Peters? I do a fair amount of forward and reverse on some sloped ares...haven't had any issues (except one always misses a small area during reversing). Now, my clutch is a single stage...next tractor will have a dual stage.

That said, I'd much rather have the Live PTO...just not enough to pay for the hydro tranny.






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 12-30-2002, 21:19 Post: 46732
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 Is a LIVE PTO really that important?

The Independent PTO's are nice, but it is nice to be able to push the clutch all they way down and stop everything with one motion if things get fouled, as opposed to pressing the clutch and killing the PTO with a different control.

Back to the posting subject though... if you get a tractor with a transmission driven PTO an overrunning clutch is a necessity in my opinion. A spinning bushhog can push you into a fence or over a hill.






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