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 09-08-2008, 14:49 Post: 156536
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 Age old Question - Which One, BX 24, BX2660, gc2310

Hi all,

New to the link and of course I to have been doing some research to get the right size tractor for my needs. Unfortunately, all the models and numbers are beginning to run together and I am getting more confused the more I look around. At some point I hope it all begins to make sense.

I recently purchased a "retirement" home in my old hometown of Johnstown PA. It is 5 acres, 4 of which is lawn with quite a few trees. It is fairly rough though and I want to make sure I get a box blade to smooth out some of the bumps. In the near future is a large garden and corn patch. Also, the lawn is dotted with low-cut stumps that I will have to mow aroundjust like the trees. I do plan on digging them out over time and plan on building a garage and most likely a barn so there will be footers to dig.

I have looked at several tractors and models and think that a Kuboto BX is right especially considering the number of obstacle to mow around. However I am bulking at the BX24 in faver of a BX2660. First, I test dug the Hoe on the BX 24 and was not impressed. I have owned an old Terramite T5C and I fondly called it a BEAST as I was always impressed with its capability in both the Hoe and the Loader. When I dug with the BX Hoe, I was hard pressed to get the 12 inch bucket full. The big question is, "how hard was the ground I was trying to dig and how would the T5C do in that same spot? Of course the dealer asured me that the ground was shale-like-concrete and can put me in contact with many owners who swear by the BX 24. As well, I I looked at the difference in price for the BX2660 - more horseys, no Hoe but added an FEl about 5K less! That 5K can buy a lot of rental hoe time or another old T5C!

I was reading some of your posts recently and stumbled on the question about the Massey Ferguson 2310. Another option - just what I need. Seems like the MF2310 has better specs and little more power, but seems like a larger machine more comparable to the Kubota B series. If I want to compare the 2310 to the Kubota, I should compare it to a B23xx not the BX. Does that sound right? Being larger it may be an issue for a lot of steering aroung the trees when I mow - so it might be too big. I do like the "go fo more power" idea as many suggest that is the big attraction to the 2660 - more power, 26HP in the same small BX size.

Any advice you guys can offer is appreciated. I do understand that the dealer relationship is important, but if the tractor is wrong it doesn't matter how good the dealer is. Kubota is about 3 miles away and great attitude, MF is 30 miles but I have not visited them. Cannot find JD nearby but can't say as I looked real hard for them.

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 09-08-2008, 15:19 Post: 156537
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 Age old Question - Which One, BX 24, BX2660, gc2310

I don't know specific Kubotas but given their reputation, the wide range of models and attachments, and the nearby dealer, I don't know why you'd look elsewhere. Nothing beats a field test, so maybe the dealer would let you try more than one model.






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 09-08-2008, 16:26 Post: 156538
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Larry, can not help you with the models you are looking at but based upon my two Kubotas and my brother's Massey, give me the Kubota. I do have a B2710 and it has a big heart.

Digging the stumps out is a good option to me based upon many factors but here they would likely grind them. I don't like that if digging is a good option. I say that based upon my own experience of grinding them and now for years it is to keep filling in the rotting stump holes. If I were only going to need the hoe to dig out the stumps and then be done with it, I would rent one for that or even a mini excavator. That way your fel would be free to move dirt and stump.

Sure hope you enjoy both your new homesite and the joy of working it. Glad to have you here. kt






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 09-08-2008, 20:43 Post: 156543
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I faced your same delema about a backhoe several years ago. Our brands are different but the basics are the same. I had never owned a hoe, but had operated fullsize tractor hoes in the past. The hoe I bought is a Deere #48 to fit my 4310. It will do most anything a fullsize hoe will do but just takes twice as long. In a pure ecomimic sense neither of us can afford to own one for the cost of renting one. Not knowing your age you may be like me, in your retirement years and just always wanted a new one and not have to deal with the reason someone traded off the used one. Most anything decent in a fullsize used tractor hoe was three times the cost of the #48, so tossing economics to the wind I bought the new one and have never regretted it. Frank.






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 09-09-2008, 08:33 Post: 156546
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I appreciate the answers and view points from everyone. The location of the dealer and their attitude is an extremely important factor and why am leaning heavily to the Kubota. Guess the remaining question is "to backHoe or not to back hoe?"

As hardwood stated, he threw economics to the wind and never regreted it. I expect I will be the same way. But the 4310 is quite a bit larger machine than the BX24 and it still takes twice as long to accomplish the task. I begin to expect that the BX might be too small for the stump work in what I expect to be rocky soil. Can anyone out there give some feed back on the performance of the BX24 or 25? on the flip side, if I go with the slightly larger B2910, does anyone have any experience or insight on the manueverability for mowing around trees?

Thanks again for your help.

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 09-09-2008, 09:05 Post: 156548
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 Age old Question - Which One, BX 24, BX2660, gc2310

From my point of view you couldn't pay me enough to use a CUT around trees unless they were all old enough and big enough that there wasn't a branch that was within 10' of the ground!

Aside from the PITA of cutting around trees, a bigger machine will cause a lot more compaction o the soil, that will be tough on either the trees or the turf, neither like well packed soil.

FWIW, the cost of a decent deck, especially a MMM, you could buy a good used commercial rider that would also likely have the turf cut in about half the time as a CUT would take.

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 09-09-2008, 09:56 Post: 156549
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But Murf, if you used a mower you don't have as many truff tears caused trying to turn tight around that tree! Seriously, I was using a B2710 with a 72 inch RFM and bought a zero turn mower with a 52 inch deck for just trimming. After about twice of doing that have only used the tractor and RFM maybe twice in two years. Then only when my wife is running one and me the other. The ZTR with 20 inch narrower deck cut the same yard in 75% of the time with less trimming. Not saying a ZTR is the best choice.

I was looking last year for a small excavator to do some rather serious stump removal with and other work. A good friend of mine who was in that business was my machine expert on testing and recommendations. He tried a machine I thought was sufficient and pleased with. He agreeded it was in good shape and priced right. Then he made a small comment about a larger machine the same person had for sale and it got me: the larger machine will also lift the stumps out of the hole after you dig them. What? Is that the problem, not the roots? Bought a machine between the two and guess what...have stumps I can dig and then have to wait for them to dry to lift them out of the hole. Glad they are not going onto a truck for hauling. kt






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 09-09-2008, 10:38 Post: 156550
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Kenneth, our problem up here is not so much the ripped up turf, that's a rookie only issue! Laughing out loud Our big problem with trees is they bite!

The coniferous trees have very sharp needles, and during the warm weather tend to ooze sap which is extremely sticky. With a front deck mower you can stuff the deck under the tree and remain clear of the prickly & sticky bits of the tree.

With the stumps are you sure it's the moisture and not the soil still attached to them? We use a portable (trailer mounted) water tank and gas-powered pressure washer to clean as much dirt off the stump as possible before lifting it out of the hole. This not only leaves as much dirt behind to refill the hole as possible, but it makes burning (or in our case grinding) the stump a whole lot easier and faster.

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 09-09-2008, 10:51 Post: 156551
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Murf, Understand the tree needles. Our pines are a lot like that but I have some leyland cypress and those are so soft you can enjoy them. Wasp are my concern around them. They are nice for privacy and look good. Oh yeah those holly bushes and live oaks keep you on your toes when mowing next to them.

On the stumps, it is both a combo of the water and dirt. Some of these stumps are coming out of holes that are really wet. Depending on the root structure it is amazing how much dirt some roots hold onto. Can see where the washer would be good where you don't have the time to let the stump sit and dry to loosen the dirt. kt






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 09-09-2008, 11:57 Post: 156552
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 Age old Question - Which One, BX 24, BX2660, gc2310

I'd go with a larger tractor and BH combination. If it is over your budget, suggest looking at a nice used unit. Would also forget the MMM and get a zero turn or other stand alone unit. I took my 72"MMM off years ago and never put it back on. I was mowing under and around trees and felt it was a pain.






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