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 06-03-2004, 10:26 Post: 87626
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Well I broke down yesterday and bought a new 4410 with eHydro, a 430 Loader and LX6 Cutter. I own a small 7 acre horse farm with about 5 acres of pasture. I feel like a got a very decent tractor for my property. Can't wait for it to get here!

The question I have is that the dealer seemed to push the R4 tires and I'm a little concerned about traction. The lower half of my field gets pretty wet, my 430 lawn tractor gets stuck and the Ford 2000 I currently have (with R1 bar tires) leaves deep ruts. It seems that most people get the R4's and I was wondering what experiences everyone had with this setup. I believe the wider tire would be better, and the R4 wont tear up the ground as much, but I have read other posts about problems with traction.

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 06-03-2004, 11:26 Post: 87633
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If the ruts your Ford 2000 leaves are unacceptable your best bet is the R4s. But there is no free lunch, the R4s won't work nearly as well as R1s in the wet areas, and they could plug entirely and behave like slicks. The R4s are a compromise, and like all compromises they don't excel at anything. Well, they can carry a heavy load.






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 06-03-2004, 11:48 Post: 87634
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Kwschumm is right, good for weight, if a lawn is wet I still tear it up if I go over it more then once when doing backhoe work. I have r4's. I would like to drop my hoe and go into the woods to yard out some logs, but, I'm afraid I won't get out. It drops 1 foot in 5 minimum. I used to go down in there with r1's on the Kubota. Can't use chains either because the tires are so big there is no room between the inner fenders and tires. In your case, the widest set of r1's might help. A second tractor might help me.






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 06-03-2004, 12:11 Post: 87637
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Humm... the wider R1's sound like they may be a good option. I have horses in this field, which makes ruts a pretty bad problem.

The main reason I thought the R4's would be OK is that the wet area is pretty flat... but it is real wet! I drove the Ford 2000 through it last weekend and left 4-5 inch ruts... the ground was actually pretty firm . Last fall I was sinking a good 6-8 inches or more.

Does anyone have experience with the wider R1's in a wet field?

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 06-03-2004, 12:25 Post: 87638
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I have 12.4x14 R1s set as wide as they will go (see my pic 11). I've used them in fields of wet clay and traction is fine, but they do make a mess. I traded the R4s for R1s, sine the R4s were near useless in the same conditions. The R4s not only made a mess but there was almost zero traction.






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 06-03-2004, 12:30 Post: 87639
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Kwschumm. I think the lack of traction makes more of a mess, maybe not deep ruts but any top soil or sod get torn up from the spinning or sliding sideways. With r1's you might indent V's but it doesn't rip up the sod.






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 06-03-2004, 12:38 Post: 87640
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LonWall, The other day, in the rain, I was trying to backfill a waterline ditch on a very slight grade. When I just touched the bucket to the ground the tractor would stop because of spinning, had to back fill and grade with the backhoe. If I was paralel with the grade the tactor would slide sideways down the hill. With the Kubota and r1's that wouldn't happen, yes maybe it would have torn up the ground, but at a certian point torn up is torn up and it can't get much worse.






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 06-03-2004, 12:44 Post: 87642
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Kwschumm, I think picture 4,5 and 6 proves the point about r4's there was no need to go as far as picture 7 to prove a point.






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 06-03-2004, 12:58 Post: 87643
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Lucerne, Laughing out loud I can't actually blame pic 7 directly on the R4s. As I was backing up the hill, and just when I thought I made it, the soil gave way under the left side causing it to roll over. Of course if the R4s had decent traction I wouldn't have been at the bottom of the hill in the first place.

You're right, slipping and sliding with R4s does more damage than R1 tracks.






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 06-03-2004, 13:10 Post: 87644
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KW, nice garage in the background of picture 11,very classic, a style that will look great 5 or 100 years from now. I like the roof shingles, the colors and paint scheme and from what I can see the overall design. I'm home designing a house today for a customer. Did you hurt anything on you or the tractor in that spill?






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