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 04-17-2004, 06:26 Post: 83406
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I have noticed my bucket has begun to drop gradually when carried at a fixed height over time, as when field mowing. No fluid leaks, loss of lift capacity or any signs of major trouble. However, the warranty period is expiring so I want to be proactive if trouble might lie ahead. Ideas or comments ?






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 04-17-2004, 07:28 Post: 83408
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I think a little leak down is common on all units, I recall someone posting about this a few months ago.but if you think its a real problem taking it to dealer before warranty expires would keep you from footing the bill if there is something wrong.






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 04-17-2004, 08:46 Post: 83413
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That drift is considered normal. Actually something like a foot an hour is considered to be within specs, although that would be more than I could stand.

I get noticeably more drift in warmer weather. So I am experimenting with HyGard (instead of Low Vis) and the increased viscosity seems to help slow the drift, but just a bit.

As an aside, both 410 loaders I have owned have had "the drift" while the 3 points (on a 4100 and a 4115) have been rock solid.

In contrast, I had a BX that had zero loader drift but the 3 point drooped while it was parked. Go figure.






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 04-17-2004, 14:01 Post: 83423
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Thanks guys. Will check drift down distance over a set time period then see what the dealer has to say.






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 04-19-2004, 21:10 Post: 83675
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I have a 99 JD 790. I dont have the problem your speaking of. My bucket stays exactly were I put it as long as the engine is running. The only problem I have had is the whole loader falling off by simply traveling will a normal load in it & running over a slight bump in the terrain I am traveling on.






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 04-19-2004, 21:48 Post: 83682
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jk, if your measured leak down is excessive, you could have a scored spool or bad load check on your valve. As some leak down is normal, excessive leak down can be signs of a problem. If you aren't seeing any leaks, your leakdown is most likely inside the valve body.






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 04-20-2004, 07:05 Post: 83697
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The loader falls off? Now that sounds like a subject worth pursuing.






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 04-20-2004, 12:33 Post: 83716
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Tom, It was a poor design by deere on the 99 790. They corrected it in 2000 but weren't willing to fix it for me. The dealer fought for me but bob mills from deere head corp said "sorry, trade it in for a 2000!" i spent a grand & had my dealer modify it! I was apauled at JD's additude!






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 04-20-2004, 14:41 Post: 83723
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A friend and a customer who both had early JD 4xxx models with the now infamous grass-eating front axle got pretty much the same answer from JD, "Sell it if you don't like it.".

Now that's customer service.

As for the drift problem, I know of at least one person (with different makes & models) who had the FEL cylinders torn down and resealed with over-sized 'O' rings, problem solved.

Best of luck.






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 04-20-2004, 20:37 Post: 83751
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HUH, well murf i am glad to hear i am not the only one who has witnessed JD's attitude! I am hemming & hawing over trading my JD in for either a NH or a Kubota. Right now i am kind head toward kubota. Input anyone?






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