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 06-21-1999, 00:00 Post: 5362
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

OK. After reading posts here, everyone seemed to agree it was a good idea to change out the hydraulic fluids and filters after the first 50 hrs at the same time as changing engine oil. Sense I have a hydro, I figured this made sense and made my way to the local dealer. When I told him what I wanted to do, he looked at me like I was from Mars, and basically said if I want to waste my money it's my business. Now, $86.00 later, I'm wondering if this is really necessary. I have no problem investing $86 to prolong the life of a $13,000 tractor, but am I wasting my money?






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 06-21-1999, 00:00 Post: 5365
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

No, you are not wasting your money but your dealer is wasting your time and possibly some tractors transmissions in the process. Have him read the owners manuel. The part for the 50hr. service is for good reason.






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 06-21-1999, 00:00 Post: 5371
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OK, page 124 of my 4200 manual says change transmission oil every 500 hours of operation. Same with front axle (page 122). It says to check front axle level every 50 hours and gear transmission oil level every 10 with the sight glass. Check engine oil every 10 hours and change engine oil and filter after first 50 hours and then every 200 hours of operation. I cannot find where it suggests that you change transmission oil and filters at 50 hours of operation. If your dealer is reading from the same manual, maybe that's why he thought you were from Mars. I do not know what manual the others are reading from but sure would like to know where they find information that causes them to reduce the manufacturer's recommendations by 90%. That's like changing car oil and filter every 650 to 750 miles. Keep those oil companies in business.






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 06-21-1999, 00:00 Post: 5376
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

My Kubota manual says to change engine oil, filter, transmission oil and filter at 50 hours. It is an HST (2710).






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 06-22-1999, 00:00 Post: 5387
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

the manual for my new 4310gst states that 50hr oil, filter, transmission oil and filter changes are mandatory! after that it is 400 hours on trans. and 100 on engine.






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 06-22-1999, 00:00 Post: 5394
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

My manual is exactly like Frank's. I know my dealer has sold several 4000 series JD's since they have become available, and I'm the first one to ever ask for a new hydraulic filter. They have never even had one in stock and had to special order it! So, I get to go back again and have the counter guy double check me to see if I have pointy ears or antenna in the back of my head.






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 06-23-1999, 00:00 Post: 5437
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

I think after reading the post that Deere manuels don't recommend a 50 hr. trans. service and kubota does. It would be wise whether you have a Deere or Kubota to service at 50hr to get rid of the break-in garbage. Those hydros are mass $$$ and if you plan on keeping it the rest of your life it would be well worth it.






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 06-23-1999, 00:00 Post: 5445
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

Mike, I have to assume that the manufacturer knows what it's talking about (that's why I bought the tractor from them (Deere) not someone else). It would not surprise me that the Deere hydro does not have a problem with break-in garbage as some other manufacturer's tractors might have. Perhaps Deere requires the hydro manufacturer to do something that some others do not. Perhaps they have a better filtration system. If Deere says a change of filters and fluid is not needed for 500 hours, I'm not going to cut their recommendation by 90% to throw money away. And, unless the service is actually needed, you have just flushed your money down the drain. If they want the engine oil changed at 50 hours, why don't we do it at five hours instead? It's the same principle.






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 06-23-1999, 00:00 Post: 5449
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

Frank it is normal for ANY new tractor Deere, Kubota etc. to have an incredible amount of contaminates from the gears trying to "seat in" or find their place in life--Mostly the first few hours. I just thought it would be wise to change it anyway at 50hrs. as a precaution on a $20,000 unit. Not all manuels give out sound advise. For example--my JD 870 manuel says 2+ quarts for the front diff.---it took almost 6. It seems like every new rig have have bought the last 30yrs. the manufacturers recommended an early change in all fluids to get rid of the breakin garbage. I guess Deere could be different??? But my common sense tells me to change at 50hrs. anyway. Just my .02 cents.






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 10-29-2000, 10:39 Post: 20991
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 Change hydraulic fluid at 50 hrs.?

Am I understanding that people with Deere manuals have manuals saying two different things?

I happened to find this thread today after my (summer 1999) 4300 HST with 202 hours seems to have lost most of its transmission fluid. It is stuck on the front lawn now. This started with a trickle last night, after which I immediately parked it on the lawn. Now, if you turn the engine over, transmission fluid leaks like a river from an area just behind the radiator, and possibly from other areas. I mean a LOT of fluid. My manual says to change it at 500 hours. What do you think the issue is?






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