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 04-20-2003, 15:59 Post: 53443
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I'm waiting for the delivery of my new JD 4710; Oh Yeah!
How many plows should I pull behind me that won't be working the tracor too hard? My field is relatively flat and was farmed a few decades ago. (Time for new life) What is the proper way to plow (direction) of say a rectangular field. Work my way from the outside edge in?
What about discing after I plow? (size and all) Harrowing comes next right? Can you tell I'm new at all this? Thanks in advance for any reply.






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 04-20-2003, 16:14 Post: 53444
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what are you looking to plant?






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 04-20-2003, 17:51 Post: 53447
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web, as a genral rule, 20 hp is required per malboard plow. when I plow, I work the outside in, rolling the soil away. Then, when you come back for the next pass, going in the same direction, place the tractors front right tire in the furrow you made from the first pass and you will be lined up. On larger fields when you work both ends, then meet in the middle, you will often have a large furrow in the center. There isn't much you can do about this, except straigten it out with disk. When your finished plowing the long ends, then you can close the field. You will roll the soil inward on the ends, this will give you a nice looking job. I usually wait a day or two before disking, but you dont have to. Also, be cognisant of the way the ground lies. always plow in such a way that you wont have ground erosion. Often times, after plowing, I will run over the area several times with the disk. I can afford to do this because my plot is of smaller scale. I would imagine that it would be false economy if you would run over several acres multiple times. As with disking, you will disk in the direction you plowed, at least for the first pass. It can get pretty rough, so you'll go slowly.Then if you want a perfect job,you can run over the disked ground with a culipacker, this will break up all of the clumps and give you a smooth job. However, I have found that disking the plowed ground is sufficient. especially since I don't own a culipacker.
Hopefullt I have helped you, I am only going off of my experiences, I'm sure that everyone has their own ideas on how this task should be completed, but, hopefully, this will get you started in the right direction. Good Luck Ron L. New Park, PA






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 04-20-2003, 18:29 Post: 53449
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Back in the old day, 1 inch of plow per horse power was the rule but soil condition vary in different parts of the country so you need to adjust. In sandy soil a plow will pull much easier then if your land is heavy clay.

My best suggest would be to talk with the tractor dealer in your area, he knows best the area soil conditions an the tractors capability..






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 04-20-2003, 19:47 Post: 53453
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I plan on planting orchard grasses and clover. I heard that buckwheat is good to plant also, returning nitrogen to the soil and all. Thanks for asking. web






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 04-20-2003, 19:54 Post: 53454
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plow from outside in as mydoyroy stated ,then a tined harrow works good for tearing down furrows into smaller clumps,then disk for final smoothin.a good sized log dragged a few feet behind dish also acts as a poor mans cultapacker. If it's lugumes your planting you really don't need to moldboard. what i do is drag my boxblade around to tear out sod ,then go right to disk, then chain 7ft oak log behind disk for final pass .works great for sowing clovers and alpha. look at my photo album of one of my 8th acer plots.






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 04-20-2003, 20:11 Post: 53455
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I don't have that big of area so I have a flex Harrow. I disk then harrow, run the flex harrow tines down to break clumps and them tine up to smooth.






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 04-20-2003, 20:12 Post: 53456
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I'm not sure what a culipacker is. Is there a certain size disc I should purchase? I will maintain 15 acres. web






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 04-21-2003, 03:59 Post: 53467
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Web Generally you would roll ground in one year and out another that way you do not have a big ridge or a valley down the center. As gunfighter said soil is different, (ART where you at for a plow demo??? Still smile about that and I'll let you tell the story). You might have power enough but I doubt you have tractor (weight) enough to pull 3 bottom 16". The biggest problem with maximizing what you can pull is tire damage from slippage and cuts from stones. You could run tire chains to prevent damage to tires...or just run a 2bottom 14" maybe 3/14 if you have no clay/hardpan.

Now all that said: why buy 3 pieces of equipment when 1 rotary (roto) tiller would do the complete job in one pass?

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 04-21-2003, 16:44 Post: 53515
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Harvey,
I contemplated buying a tiller, but I didn't think that the tines would go deep enough into the soil. Is it time consuming? What about rocks and sapling roots? Does the tiller smooth things up if the ground is rough to begin with? Is there a tiller you have in mind to use on a 15 acre field? I assume it would be less wear on the tractor as well. Thanks for your reply. web






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