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 12-07-2002, 11:37 Post: 45840
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I recently purchased a JD4110 hydro with a 60" front bucket, a 60" allied 3pt blower, a 60" Midmount mower, and a ballast box. Tractor have R4 tires. This is an outstanding machine. I looked at all s and this is the only one I was comfortable having my 12yr old daughter operate and she can handle it well.

My question is what should I fill the ballast box with? Concrete would be the heaviest but you could never empty it, then again if I fill it with rock I will probably never empty it anyway. Any suggetions from the board?






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 12-07-2002, 14:36 Post: 45843
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It is hard to overdo the ballast on this model. It has a very light rear end. I would go with the heaviest material listed.
I really doubt you will ever feel the need to empty it anyway.
If you get some heavy duty casters you can build a little wheeled pallet out of 2x4's and plywood to set it on when you take it off the tractor. It will be a whole lot easier to get it back on if you can roll it around.






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 12-07-2002, 15:53 Post: 45846
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If you fill it with sand, peastone, or rocks you will have all the ballast you will need. If you find some scrap pieces of steel that would help too. I would not waste it putting concrete in it. In the warm weather you might want to use it to carry water or a tree or shovels/rakes or something useful.






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 12-07-2002, 20:53 Post: 45855
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I have had the rear end of my 4100 off the ground a couple of times when I got the bucket lip stuck under a root. That was with loaded tires (+240#), me (285#), and 650# of three point ballast. Thank God the power steering had enough ompf to hold the tractor straight until I could put it back on the ground because the slope I was working on would have rolled the tractor if it didn't hold. Word to the wise......

Also, if I put my pallet forks on the FEL (they weigh maybe 90 pounds) I can lift the rear end of my unballasted 4100 off the ground with one hand and hold it there balanced on the front axle. I am not joking. I am stronger than average, but not that strong!

Trust me when I say it has a light rear end.






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 12-08-2002, 06:54 Post: 45864
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Mark: I remember that discussion, and lifting up the rear would have been a real eye-opener for me. I also remember how bouncy my heavier 1710 was with loads of gravel in the fairly small bucket when I first got the tractor and before I had anything to put on the 3ph. The tractor has unloaded turfs. And, I remember having to use 4wd to back up a grassy ditch bank I drove down to position the tractor for the next post-hole. The weight transfer forward on the slope took most of the traction off the rear wheels.

I'd say that it's hard to overdo rear ballast in terms of tractor balance and that should be the first concern. There have been discussions here about the effects of excessive ballast. Shock loads to the frame from heavy bucket loads in transit are greater with a heavy rear end. Something to keep in mind, but I wouldn't think it would be much of an issue if I found myself on my nose.






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 12-23-2002, 18:25 Post: 46500
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I went around half a dozen tire shops with the box in the bed of my truck and filled it with old wheel weights.Effective and free!! Estimate about 1000lbs of lead






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 12-23-2002, 22:57 Post: 46511
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did they give you the wheel weights for free? I figured they would recylce than and they would have some value.






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 12-31-2002, 19:46 Post: 46770
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I also have a 4110 hydro, I filled my ballsat box with gravel and topped it off with about six inches of concrete. I left it a couple of inches from the top and it gave me a nice place to store my chains, etc.






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 12-31-2002, 22:00 Post: 46778
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excellent idea. You could bust out the concrete if you ever wanted to empty the box. Might also be a good idea to drill a couple drain holes in the side so water doesn't sit in the box. I have a 60" bucket on my 4110 and no ballast in the tires, do you think the ballast box alone is enough rear weight?






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 01-01-2003, 09:54 Post: 46789
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Johnson, a ballast box will do just fine especially if your land is fairly flat. The loaded tires are really handy if you are operating on slopes. My experience with the my 4100 is that a thousand pounds is not too much ballast if you are doing heavy loader work, especially if you consider that your loader and bucket weigh 400+ pounds and the load of dirt you are lifting in the bucket can easily go 600 pounds.






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