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 09-21-2002, 17:32 Post: 42740
RickB
2002-09-21 17:32:23
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As a 1st time tractor buyer I'm having difficulty matching HP to needs/use. Have 22 acres that will need general maint, grading, couple of acres of field mowing and the need to clear, skid timber. Terrain is 50% flat & 50% hill. Have test driven Kubota L3710 HST & GST, TC40 and JD790 (dealer didn't have a 990). Liked the Kubota, something felt not as good on the TC40 and really liked the vanilla JD790. $ on the L3710, TC40 and JD990 are from 19,300 to 22,300 (with loader)...not too wide a spread. But at 15,300 I'm wondering if the JD790 may do the job. Would also like to use a chipper to help clear, maintain and not burn slash piles. Any thoughts?






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 09-21-2002, 18:07 Post: 42743
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The 790 is a dated machine. You will find it difficult to mount and dismount especially when working in a wood lot. The only other weak point is the brake which are not sealed. If left out in the rain or if used in a wet environment it can be a problem. The basic machine is a tough actor but I might look at the NH TC-30 as it is more comparable to the 790 in term of price and can be bought with a HST.






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 09-21-2002, 18:27 Post: 42744
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The 790 is a superb, trouble free little tractor. "Dated" it may be, but do you want a tractor or a Cadillac? As far as the difficulty mounting and dismounting...that is too subjective for another to make that determination for you. Have you tried the "fit" of the 790, 990 or others yet? My machine is a 670 (lower horsepower earlier model...same sheet metal as the 790..virtually identical except for power rating) and I've a bum leg. However,I've no problem mounting or dismounting the machine. You really need to make your own call as far as ease of getting on and off.

Now, the 790 is only availible as a gear tractor. Altough I prefer gears, sometimes hydro would be nice (just not worth the extra $1500-$2000 to me). It really depends on your circumstances. If you do go gear, just make sure you get the dual stage clutch.

The 790 has 25 HP @ the PTO. This is enough to drive most implements that a non-agricultural owner would want or need.

You mention you have 22 acres but only mow a few. How much will you need to mow or bush hog?

Skidding timber might be an issue, however. The 790 weighs about 2300 pounds. This may not be heavy enough to maintain traction when pulling logs (easy answer though...cut down the length of the log(s)).

I think you'll like the 790. Overall, it's one of the best values on the market. There's no doubt it'll be my next tractor (so you don't think I'm pushing Deere too much...my first choice was a Kubota...just got a great deal on the 670).






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 09-21-2002, 19:00 Post: 42746
RickB
2002-09-21 00:00:00
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Roy and Peters,
Thanks for the reply messages. It's fun to ask a question and get an answer quickly. As far as the brush mowing it will mostly be the couple of acres mentioned. There are a group of neighbors that share the use of a brush hog and they've indicated for a nominal $ I can get in on the use of this. I too had a gut feeling concern that the 790 may not be enough beef to handle some of the logging needs and am hoping that other responses will address this more specifically. In the test drives I found the HST really easy to adapt to but also wasn't sure if paying the additional dollars was what we may want to do. Life is slow on that little piece of ground and if it takes a few more moments to stop and shift, so be it. Peters has a point about ease of access...I didn't mind it in the test drives but will have to weigh the long term decision.
Rick






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 09-21-2002, 19:30 Post: 42747
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I recommend you check out Kioti tractors also.
Great tractors at good prices,I bought a DK35 earlier this year and love it !!






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 09-22-2002, 05:36 Post: 42763
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There should be a bunch of discussions about log skidding in the archives that might be good to read.

The basic idea is that it doesn't take a very big log to outweigh a small tractor. On rough ground there's good potential for the log taking the tractor for a ride rather than the other way around. For tractors in this class, skidding probably is best limited to firewood ideas, but the tractors mentioned should do that job. Without an arch with its own wheels, skidding can put a lot of weight on the 3ph, so 3ph capacity is an issue. The weight also can be highly variable if for example the tractor starts up a hill and pulls more of the log off the ground.

If there's a 3ph snow blower in the future, I think 790's and 990's have a manual two-range TX that provides two reverse gears. That limits the choice of ground speeds, since a blower ties the tractor to pto rpm. I have four reverse gears on my Ford and it works well. I think somebody here does use a 3ph blower on a 790 or similar model and said it works OK although the ground speed is fairly slow in low range. That issue would just mean that in a heavy snow the tractor might not run the blower in high range and using low range would take awhile.






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 09-22-2002, 09:05 Post: 42771
RickB
2002-09-22 00:00:00
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Tom,
Good points to keep in mind as I go through the selection process. At this point not planning on a rear snow blower but one never knows. I will look into the articles on timber skidding. Leaning more towards the 990. Thanks,
Rick






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 09-22-2002, 09:20 Post: 42772
LenO
2002-09-22 00:00:00
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I own a 990 and after 1 year have no remorse on that decision. Either way the design of the 790 and 990 have their roots in the 750/850/950/1050 models which have been termed by some as "bullet-proof".

My only advice to you is whatever you decide is adequate to do the job, step back and give hard consideration to the next size up. My last purchase was a 81 model 850 and many times I found myself in a situation that a little more tractor was necessary.






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 09-22-2002, 13:39 Post: 42779
RickB
2002-09-22 00:00:00
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Len,
Thanks for the advise and glad to hear you're pleased with the 990. The "step back and look again" process is what has made me lean more towards the 990. Since I wasn't able to see one at the dealer I assume it's the same as the 790 only slightly larger. Were there other tractors you examined when making your choice on the 990 and if so what else did you consider?
Rick






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 09-22-2002, 14:45 Post: 42780
BMarriott
2002-09-22 00:00:00
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Hello! Just saw this discussion. I purchased a 990 2 years ago and have no regrets. It is actually a significantly heavier machine the 790, which I looked at first. Weight is 3175 pounds per JD specs, and there is quite a bit more leg room when in the seat. As far as weight goes, I put 220 pounds of weight on each rear wheel, plus 250 pounds on the front bracket when the loader is off. I also had the front tires filled with foam which added another 130 pounds per tire. This configuration lets me use an MX-6 rotary cutter (1090 pounds) with no problems. Also, the transmission is 9 forward/3 reverse in response to the rear snowblower question. I agree with the earlier post...always go a bit larger than what you perceive as the minimum requirement and you won't regret it.






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