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 10-31-2001, 13:02 Post: 32824
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 4100 and snow

I bought a JD 4100 (Gear) last Spring. It is equipped with a 410 loader and R4 tires. This Winter I am planning to use it to plow snow from driveways a little (with the bucket), move snow banks back, etc. (I have a truck with a blade but I will use the tractor to keep the snow banks at bay) Some of the driveway is gravel (toward the barn) and some is paved (toward the garage). All of it is steep. Will I encounter traction problems? Do you think I will need to buy chains? (I live in New England and get snow storms that average 12 to 15 inches of snow per storm. Snow banks will average 4-6 feet) Thanks for your help. Kevin






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 10-31-2001, 16:14 Post: 32853
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Kevin, I owned a 4100 hydro....used it for pushing back banks and plowed with the Jeep. It had turf tires and worked well for this purpose without chains, however those r-4's won't be as good in the snow. Several points to remember..1) I used a heavy rear blade for ballast..2) You are operating on hills, I would suggest you grab all the traction you can to prevent sliding and causing an accident or injury, spend $96.00 on chains at tirechains.com. and 3) If you are using a loader on a hill, be extremely carefull of your bucket position when moving. In other words, keep your loader arms as close to the sea as possible to avoid a capsize sailor.






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 10-31-2001, 17:36 Post: 32865
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You did not state whether the 4100 has 4 wheel drive or not, but I assume not. I would suggest purchasing a blade. I would plow the my hill in Kentucky with the blade (750 4x4). The road down from the house was very steep and paved. If I started to slide I could put the blade down and slow my slide. You should be able to find a blade for less than $200 new.
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 11-01-2001, 10:03 Post: 32878
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I have a 4100 (HST), turf tires, with front loader and rear blade. Here in southern Missouri we had a 14" snow last year and I had no trouble with traction moving show with either the blade or the loader. I cleared my drive (gravel) and the road in front of my house (asphalt). I agree that you may have some traction problems with the R4's if you remove the snow down to pavement. I was surprised at the traction with turf tires. Anyway, the 4100 should handle your snow removal problems just fine; but, a little slow using only the front loader.






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 11-01-2001, 12:49 Post: 32881
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I am a John Deere Salesman in Illinois. I would get a 5' rear 3pt blade for your 4100. What you can't dig out with the loader you can drag or push away with the rear blade.

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 11-02-2001, 07:05 Post: 32900
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Peters, all 4100's have 4wd.

Kevin, Weight would be good for traction. I plow a driveway and a private road in Michigan (Detroit area) with mine (4100, R4's, loader). I have used a backblade and a loader. This year I am upgrading to a loader blade (homemade one). I plan to make a weight for the 3pt. for use with the front blade. You can do what you want with no chains/no weight, but you will slip. Weight would help, and would likely be enough, as long as you don't have ice or really hardpack snow under the fresh stuff. With the loader pushing banks, the way you work the loader becomes important. I have found that if you start with the bucket on the ground, then slowly raise the loader as you start to slip, the weight of the bucket, the snow in it, and the snow being pushed up by it, gives you more traction to the front tires which helps the pushing. It becomes an art after a while. I think a weight box or platform (you can make one easy and cheap and use bags of qwick crete for the weight) on the back along with the art of working the loader should be ok for you depending on the steepness of your hill. You can always try it the first snowfall and then add weight and/or chains if you feel safer having them. I probably wont get chains (my kidneys don't like the ride).






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 11-02-2001, 10:33 Post: 32907
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I have seen some new "x" pattern chains on the market that look like they are about 1/3 the diameter or bulk of traditional chains. They look like a soft ride. I don't know if they are available in tractor sizes.






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 11-02-2001, 17:20 Post: 32910
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I've had my 4100 in NE for 2 years now plowing snow and it does almost all I could ask of it. I've got the HST, turf tires (no chains), and FEL but I also use a heavily weighted rear blade. I strap on 3 5-gallon buckets filled with concrete (each bucket weighs about 100 pounds.) Between those and the 200 pound rear blade, I get quite a bit of traction using the bucket. Using the blade, it digs into packed snow and ice real well at the expense of traction. This year I'm going to try just 2 buckets and some homemade wheel weights (old barbell weights -- about 300 pounds total.) I plow my own 200 yard drive and parking area as well as 3 neighbors and have only been stuck once. As long as you keep the banks back and knocked down, your machine should do fine. BTW, there was a post on this board last year about using screw-in tire studs from motorcycle racing tires to add traction to your tractor tires. Haven't tried it but it sounded like a more comfortable method than chains. Hope this helps you.






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 11-02-2001, 19:29 Post: 32911
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One more thing I should mention. The ladder tire chains I use don't seem to make the machine jump around like I am reading in these posts. I keep the tires just hard enough to carry the load yet remain flexible. I would think that beats screws in your turf tires, but to each his/her own.






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 11-05-2001, 13:36 Post: 32958
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I have a 4100 with turf tires and 410 loader. I live in Virginia. We had a mild winter last year. I had no problem plowing 6" of snow from my driveway with the loader.
I just picked up a set of the ladder chains (rear only) from my John Deere dealer. The cost was $150. Cheap insurance if we get a big storm. Also, I can use the chains in the field for loader work. I got stuck in mud last year with the turf tires.
Has anyone used chains when removing snow on an asphalt driveway? Any tips? I want to make sure I don't wreck the pavement if I do have to use the chains.

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