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 08-27-2001, 09:17 Post: 31317
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 Lug nut size on JD 4100 HST

I just took delivery of my 4100 HST and went to check on the tightness of the wheel lug nuts after using the tractor for a few hours and was surprised to learn that the front wheels have different size lug nuts than the rear wheels. I do not have a socket big enough for the front nuts, so before I went and bought different size sockets, I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on the size of the front lug nuts ? Thanks, Gavin






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 08-27-2001, 11:16 Post: 31322
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 Lug nut size on JD 4100 HST

standard car/pickup 4-way lugnut wrench should work






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 08-27-2001, 13:15 Post: 31332
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Gavin, from what I have seen, the 4100 mostly metric for a start. Take a look at your owners manual. Towards the back there is a table with all of the different bolt sizes used on the tractor. There is a number stamped on the bolt. You will see something like "10.9". Go to manual, look up the bolt. You will see torqueing specification and, I believe, the metric size. Hope this helps.






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 08-27-2001, 13:23 Post: 31333
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Thanks for your help....I will check this out....
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 08-28-2001, 05:41 Post: 31345
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For most purposes, metric tools are needed only for sizes less than 14mm. Starting with 14mm = 9/16", standard tool sets in sixteenth do OK for larger metric sizes. Anyway, I've taken the larger metric wrenches and sockets out of my toolboxes to save time fishing around for the right wrench.






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 08-28-2001, 20:01 Post: 31377
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Just wandering but isn't this the way that the British Auto industry crumbled? Part metric, part SAE and part Whitworth. You had to stand there with 3 wrench sets in hand. My 97 Ford was about the same.
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 08-29-2001, 07:05 Post: 31396
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Yep, I worked in a BSA shop in the early 70's, we'd get Whitworth, SAE and Japanese metric on the same bike. I've still got a tool box with the remnants of three tool sets. Wrench fishing sure did slow down the work. At that time, BSA N. America was collapsing and getting parts was interesting. I wonder if the manufacturer cared. What did they expect trying to sell a W.W.II engine design mostly on the basis that Japanese bikes looked and sounded funny? I guess when Brit manufacturers finally reacted and build the 750cc 'threes' they waited too long, and their market had disappeared. The other thing is that I liked the old Whitworth hardware. The threads always started and seldom stripped, cross-threaded or corroded. It was expensive to manufacturer though. Too bad it also disappeared along with many other good things that were displaced by lower quality, but cheaper, alternatives. With todayís hardware, itís not uncommon for me to throw a new bolt in the trash because the manufacturing process left it without starter threads. Maybe a few N. American large manufacturers could find take a lesson form the Brit bikes. Well, I guess itís a rant, but I kept it short.






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 08-29-2001, 12:35 Post: 31405
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Tom. I'm curious what you use for 15mm? Also, the sizes 17, 18, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29? I know 15mm is sometimes missing in a metric set, so I had to buy those separately. Are some of the other metric sizes just not used, allowing for using the standard ones?
A 11/16 won't fit on an 18mm, and 3/4 is pretty sloppy. A 3/4 is a good match for 19mm, as is 7/8 on a 22mm. But some of the others will cause one to go fish for the correct metric, or get out the adjustable wrench (crescent). Enlighten me if you would, please.






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 08-29-2001, 16:27 Post: 31407
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Kay, I would like to find out the same information. I just finished my first 50 hr maintenance and found out the same thing about some of the socket sets. I have an impact socket set for standard and metric sizes. A bunch of the bolts are in between. It's maddening. I certainly don't want to try and use regular sockets on an air-driven impact wrench.






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 08-29-2001, 18:53 Post: 31411
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The nuts on the rear of my JD 750 were an odd size also. I believe that I used a 32 fractional. I had also found some other bolts that did not seem to fit correctly either set. JD/Yanmar mechanic job security?
To complicate matters there were two metric standards, DIN and ISO. I am not sure if the heads are different sizes but the threads were cut differently. Does anyone know about the heads? Could Yamar be using the old sizes or are they trying to cut what they think is SAE in Japan?
I ran into a similar problems with square drive bits (Robertson) from Dewalt. Not a good fit.
Incidently the hydralic pipe threads are still Whitworth, world wide.
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