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 07-10-2007, 14:20 Post: 143577
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Hello all:

I've been doing research to discover if any of the John Deere sub compact tractors (made by Yanmar) are dimensionally similar to my Yanmar KE-4 (grey market). I have pinpointed the JD 4010 or 4110 as being similar in many respects.

My question: my Yanmar KE-4 has no ROPS, and I'd like to fit one. I'd prefer a foldable ROPS, too.

I was wondering if any of you gents who have one of these John Deere models 4010 or 4110 (4115) could help me out by measuring the various mounting dimensions on your ROPS ?

The local JD dealer will order me a foldable ROPS, but it's a special order and if it has fitment problems on my Yanmar, it's not returnable.

I'm not complaining about the $ 750 price, which seems fair.

I'm just worried about wasting that money on this special order JD ROPS, which may not fit my Yanmar....

I guess there is always the seatbelt issue to figure out too.

I'd run down to the JD dealer but they don't stock these models anymore, so I haven't many options....

I really appreciate your help on this. I'm a careful operator, but a ROPS is indespensible for safety.

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David B.






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 07-10-2007, 15:14 Post: 143581
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I can't help you on the dimensions but have you given any thought to having one fabricated? I'd think it would be just as good, a guaranteed fit and a lot cheaper.






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 07-10-2007, 15:45 Post: 143584
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I have a 4115.... what measurements do you need?






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 07-10-2007, 16:02 Post: 143587
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Without answering for Yanmar, but if it helps speed the process any.....

The most critical dimensions/specifications will be;

- mounting boss (pad it sits on), probably 2 u-bolts per side, spread between them, and width of them, plus is it flat to the ground or angled.

- width & height, and where they're taken from, inside, outside or centerline.

Beyond that, if it's close, it might be the easiest to take it, and get it customized, or an adaptor made to make it work. This will of course void any liability that the manufacturer had.

Best of luck.






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 07-10-2007, 16:03 Post: 143588
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 Yanmar KE-4 aftermarket ROPS ?

I'm pulling this out of an email, as I sold my fixed (JD 4110) ROPS on ebay when I conveted to the foldable for the backhoe:

The width at the base is about 19.25 inches. The spreader plate that goes there (not included in this aution) is attached by 2 bolts on each side - they are about 3.125 inches apart, center-center.

There are six holes on each side of the ROPS. Some are for bolting it down, and others are to allow for existing bolt heads on the tractor. The inside set of holes are about 25.125 inches apart (center to center) and the outside to outside set of holes are about 29.5 inches center to center. These 6 holes are 2 sets of 3 - with the three going in the direction of the tractor. These holes are 2 inches apart, center to center.

If you need any more dimensions, I'm sure I (or someone else) can help you out.

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 07-10-2007, 17:44 Post: 143589
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IMHO, depends where you live I realize, but in this age of lawsuits no self-respecting fabricator would even dream of making a ROPS. Reason? Liability. ROPS are suppose to be certified and that just ain't gonna happen with a mom-and-pop fabricator. My buddy is a major fabricator and I asked him to make me one for my old Fordson and he politely declined.

Another friend built a small fold down gate for another company's landscape trailer. He wasn't insured for "manufacturing". The trailer came off the wrong-sized hitch ball in traffic and killed a woman. The trailer seller, my buddy, and the landscaper each were given $900,000 judgements.






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 07-11-2007, 09:27 Post: 143600
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I agree with what you're saying EW. The thing is if you put another model ROPS, say JD 4115, on the Yanmar KE-4, someone would be in the same boat. ROPS are engineered for a specific model.






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 07-11-2007, 09:34 Post: 143601
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Unfortunately a lot of small business owners just don't know how to play the game.

When I had my fabricating business one of my steady customers was a golf equipment supply house. They came to me to ask if I could build ball cages for golf cars and tractors used on active courses and driving ranges, I said "no, but I can build you vandalism protection cages (wink, wink)". They had plans drawn up showing all the necessary dimensions, and titled "Vandalism / Unauthorized Use Deterent Structures" and containing a little note at the bottom by the Engineer who drew them that said "Not to be used for, or depended on for structural strength".

Several years afterwards a young man operating a machine equipped with one of these was (slightly) injured by a ball in the face which broke his nose & cheek bone and his parents sued just about everybody they could think of sueing.

After producing the drawings that were clearly labelled as to what they were, and containing a disclaimer, the Engineer and I were dropped from the lawsuit. Last I heard the employer picked up 50% of the kids medial bills since the cage was compromised by numerous prior hits and not fixed, and his parents sucked up their own (huge) legal fees for being so aggressive in the first place, since they filed a suit without speaking to anyone first, the employers insurance company flat out denied the claim (which would have paid for ALL of his medial expenses) because they were concerened about total liability.

I was told all in all it cost the parents over $100k.

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 07-11-2007, 13:29 Post: 143607
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Murf, very valid points. That is why so often the honest smaller company gets killed where the bigger one makes money. Sadly many good products have been lost due to such.






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 07-11-2007, 14:32 Post: 143609
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Sometimes I wonder if we wouldn't be better off using our God-given fists to resolve our disputes -- rather than this "more civilized" form of litigation.

Of course, I choose to live in one of the least populated places in the U.S., for just this reason. Civilization rubs me the wrong way.

I can't think of a single reason to ever live with 100 miles of any major city.

If your tractor was imported without a ROPS installed, then you may be forced to make one entirely on your own. Civilization (which includes lawyers) is forcing us back in time, when every man was forced to build everything he needed in his own shop.

I firmly believe that high trees and long ropes are not utilized to their fullest extent in this country any longer.

OK....There's my rant for today.

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