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 01-22-2007, 10:23 Post: 139000
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I have a 4710 with R4s, the drive I have to plow has 2 fairly steep grades on it and I am having issues with traction in the snow. I have 400lbs of weight on the rear wheels and the tires are in good shape. My question is whether I would be better off putting chains on the R4s or moving to R1s. Help me out guys... I am tired of sliding.






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 01-22-2007, 10:52 Post: 139001
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R1s would be better than R4s but on steep grades chains on either would probably be best.






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 01-22-2007, 11:06 Post: 139002
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 Industrial R4 versus R1 Ag Tires for Snow

LIke KW said R-1's might be a bit better but not enough to justify the cost. I think chains would be your best choice. Much better traction and lots less cost. Frank.






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 01-22-2007, 11:15 Post: 139003
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I'll go along with the general idea that chains would be the best here but unless you only use the tractor for snow removal then the rest of your uses still might need another option. Not for nothing but on paved surface your best traction for winter time from what we've seen puts the turf tires as being good for traction on ice. What else do you use your tractor for?






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 01-22-2007, 11:20 Post: 139005
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 Industrial R4 versus R1 Ag Tires for Snow

I have Turf Tires and they work great on paved surface with no chains.






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 01-22-2007, 11:31 Post: 139007
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I use the tractor for a variety of jobs from brush mowing to disc plowing and some minor use of the FEL. The dive I am plowing is about 1/2 mile and covered with rock. I use my back blade to plow with. The main debate I am having is to either put chains on the R4s, get a set of R1s or put a blade on my truck and leave the tractor as is.

It seems when I plow snow, it works best when I am in top range and keep my speed up but then I have to deal with al lot of wheel slip when I break traction. Wheel slip seems to be less in mid range but I get stuck more easily as the weight of the snow builds on the blade.

There may not be a great solution for this problem but I thought I would explore the possibilities. So far I have dealt with it by plowing up to where I break traction going up the hill, raise the blade, change the angle and go to the top of the hill and plow down. It works but it makes for a lot of off and on the machine to reverse blade angle.






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 01-22-2007, 11:33 Post: 139008
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Also, I am having a tough time figuring out the correct R1 tires for my unit. I think they would be 8 X 16 in the front and 13.6 X 28 in the rear but I am not positive. Any idea what R1s would cost in this size range?






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 01-22-2007, 11:42 Post: 139009
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Reason, your JD is about the size of my Kubota 4310 and without 1,000++ pounds on the 3pth, I may just as well stay inside with my feet in front of the fire.

Even our small units we use for clearing sidewalks have a minimum of 750 pounds for ballast on the 3pth.

Load it up, it will seem like a different machine.

Best of luck.






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 01-22-2007, 11:50 Post: 139010
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Murf,

Suggestions on adding balast to the 3pt when I have the rear blade on?

Any idea how mchh weight it would add if I had the rears filled with foam?






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 01-22-2007, 11:56 Post: 139011
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 Industrial R4 versus R1 Ag Tires for Snow

I think you would be much better off adding the weight to the 3PH and putting a blade on the front, Murf has a loader with front blade, I think he has a pix of it in his TP Album.

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