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 11-08-2006, 13:06 Post: 136733
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I'm looking to add top and tilt hyd. cylinders to my JD 4110. I found a suitable top link cylinder (see web link). I'm having difficulty finding a good side link cylinder. This is due to the 'pre-bent' tie rod ends on the current link, along with the small space it needs to fit into. ccmachinery.com says they have none, and don't know when the next boat from overseas will bring more.

So, does anyone have a source for side link cylinders? How side link much cylinder travel does the job?

Also - for those who have them - is the anti-creep (check valve) something you would recommend?

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 11-08-2006, 14:06 Post: 136737
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Check valves seem like a good idea but the JD TnT setup doesn't have them and I haven't missed them. When I use TnT I end up adjusting the tilt frequently to adapt to changing slopes so if there's any leakdown I've never noticed. If you pull long distances over flat terrain, or your cylinders leak down fast it might matter more.






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 11-08-2006, 14:37 Post: 136739
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Gearmore has a set-up made just for your tractor.

I can shoot some photos for you if you wish.






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 11-08-2006, 17:25 Post: 136749
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Jason aren't you set up to fabricate? I made my top link myself with parts from TSC for about $80--an 8" cylinder, and two ball ends. It connects to the rear remotes and works great. I haven't had the need for a tilt feature but you should be able to cut out the screw portion and replace it with either one cylinder or two straddling the offest rod/link you speak about if bending is a concern. It might be feasible to weld two smaller or shorter cylinders end-to-end to get the length you need (I've seen this done on cement truck chutes).






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 11-08-2006, 21:35 Post: 136755
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kw - Intersting the JD one doesn't have one, and I kind of figured I would be adjusting it more than it would be worth the hassle of putting that on the cylinder.

DR - I thought you had an aftermarket one on your tractor, I just couldn't remember the name. Gearmore's search engine optimization must not be good, as I never ran accoss their site looking for kits/parts. I've sent an email their way, I give them until next week to see if they're like every other site that doesn't respond to email.

earth - when I first looked into this, I planned on purchasing all the parts and putting it together. Most hydraulic cylinders don't have overwhelmingly adaptable ends for changing to the swivel rod end. I wanted to avoid welding to the hydraulic cylinder (if it ever needs replacing, it'll one less thing to do.) I'm not sure what components you were looking at for the top link, but the price of buying a top link cyl ready to go vs. buying the cylinder & rod ends was pretty close, so I just assume pay a couple of extra $$ for the pre-built one.

Hence, it's really the side tilt that's bogging me down, as the rest of the hydraulics are a no brainer. I don't have an issue fabbing one, but it just seems like it's more work than it's worth if I can buy a pre-made one. (My to-do list of things to fab, make, etc. tends to grow vs. shrink with every project I complete.)






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 11-08-2006, 21:57 Post: 136757
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Jason you are right it is better to just buy one... now---but when I made mine 4 years ago, no one I spoke to-- even the dealer---ever heard of one. I like to tinker so I figured I nothing to lose by trying. The results were amazing. It has cut my finish grading time down to a fraction. I use it with my box scaper, which for a time a fence company was paying me to remove wood fence posts with it--I would extend the top link which drops the rear of the boxblade, back into the post engaging the rear-most blade into the post, retract the toplink while lifting the hitch, and pop out the post. I could pop post after post in a line without even stopping!






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 11-08-2006, 22:22 Post: 136759
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I can imagine it being tough 4 years ago, as it's still pretty difficult to find one today. My local industrial components supplier (for industrial machines) still hasn't gotten back to me on any hydraulic cylinders meeting the applications requirements. (I was certain they could find something stock in their catalogs.)

Popping out poles with the boxblade was a rather creative idea...






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 11-08-2006, 22:41 Post: 136761
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If Gearmore doesn't answer I can put you in touch with a California dealer who can broker the whole deal for you and ship the stuff via UPS.

At the time I bought mine from the dealer they were perfecting a ROPS mounting arm..... see my pics..... and now I see the same design on the Gearmore web page.






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 11-10-2006, 15:04 Post: 136796
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No surprise - I didn't get a response to the email. Just a pet peeve of mine, rarely do I ever get a response from the 'contact us' email forms. I have a couple of different web sites - and all emails get answered within 24 hours.

Anyway, I called Geaarmore and I'm ordering the whole kit through them.

Thanks for the contact DRankin (you may want to call them for your comission.)

- Jason






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 11-10-2006, 15:20 Post: 136797
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Jason,

I have the same problem with some sites. I think that some of the sites kick in quotation marks that makes the email address invalid. Sure look like for one I did this week. You do wonder if they don't notice the lack of emails.






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