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2006-10-16          135995

I have been perusing all the literature I can find on various tractors and loaders. I found the specs on the 200X mounted on a JD2520. It said it could only lift 799 lbs at the pivot pin. That seems really low, considering the B7510 specs at 1356, the B7800 is 1655, and the Case DX26 is 1720. What gives?

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2006-10-17          136009

I think you are getting your metaphors mixed.

If the Kubota figures are correct, they apply to the 3 point NOT the FEL. ....

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2006-10-17          136010

HA, you are of course right. Revised numbers:
7800 Loader: 1060
7510 Loader: 685 or 770
Case DX26: 1090
JD2520: 799

The B7800 and the Case look like powerhouses to me! Maybe the JD unit is just underestimated or conservativly rated.

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2006-10-17          136012

I found it odd that on the John deere website (link for the 2000 series tractors), the flash add shows that you can lift up to 1277 lbs (while they show a tractor lifting with the FEL, implying that's with the FEL.) There's no specification that says what tractor, etc. I would think the 2520 is the most powerful 2000 series tractor, but it shows the 800 or so lbs. for the FEL.
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2006-10-17          136018


You should only be looking at the 200cx loader for the 2305, 2320 & 2520 series. On the web site it lists 1,277 lbs at 59"...the dealer sales and specification chart shows pivot pin capability at 902 lb, and 899 lbs for the 2320.
it also shows the 2320 lifting more than the 2520 at 59" - 1,124 lbs (2520) and 1,129 lbs (2320), as well as a higher breakout force for the 2320 - Dont ask me where the 1277 lbs came from on the website. And in no way shape of form is the 2320 a more powerful machine than the 2520.
I would like to say i can say from experience, having owned the 2320, and trading it back for the 2520. I have had the pressure checked on my machine, and out of the factory its considerably higher than the stock PSI of 2418. I have no doubt the lifting ability is considerably more than stock pivot pin ratings - I load my truck repeatedly at max height with objects 900- 1000 lbs no hesitation with the 2520. What ever I fit in a 61" bucket goes up and over at max height.

In summary Deere's specifications are inaccurate and are definitely conservative. It would be nice that they had more accurate spec's especially when it shows a middle of the road model having more performance then their higher level. Its clearly not the case, but im sure it causes confusion

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2006-12-05          137633

I have a 2520 with the 200x on it, and I dont think with the size of the bucket and tractor there is any way to reach the 900 lbs anyway, I have hauled rock, towed trees, and dug out a small pond with it, and have had no problems. ....

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2006-12-19          138179

I use a 61" bucket and I have had much more than that in my 2520 and my older 4100. Up and over it went into my mason dump truck at max height... ....

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2006-12-20          138232

You guys are missing the bucket--pun intended :) It's one thing to LIFT something with a FEL---it's a totally different matter to move the CUT with it raised any amount and do it safely especially considering the 10 percentile that won't, and then hurt themselves and sue over it. My skid loader is rated at safely hauling 2700 lb. lifted fairly high and driving with it (but don't stop too fast or you'll be kissing the ground). Now, it's rated at 5500 lb. tipping which is a whole different matter, which means it will lift 5500lb. before the rear wheels come off the ground. Can I, and do I, do it? Yup (I know its limits). Is it safe? Nope. That's for skid steers with no suspension or no articulating axles---tractors when they lift the rear wheels are like having no front wheels as far as the raised load is concerned since the front axle cannot exert any resistance from overturning until it hits the bump stops but by that time you're lieing on your side. If you have ever nearly tipped a CUT or backhoe over---you know what it means to have your life flash in front of you. Gravity: Friend or Foe? ....

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2006-12-23          138297

Earthworks,

I dont think anybody missed the point - especially with these size class machines. They are close in capacities for the most part ....

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