JD 4200 problem - need your opinions: John Deere Review  -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum and Review JD 4200 problem - need your opinions: John Deere Review -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index
New As Posted | Active Subjects



www.emerichsales.com - New & Used Equipment
          View Tractors For Sale!


www.partsbynet.com - Lawn and Garden Equipment Parts


Bernardsville Landscape Lighting
Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 08-15-2005, 12:21 Post: 114896
paulss



Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lavaca County, TX
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 60
 JD 4200 problem - need your opinions

I bought the JD 4200 w/Hydro/420 FEL and 920 hours on it. The dealer says they serviced it before delivery and it worked fine for the 20 minutes I drove it around their yard. I also bought an LX-5 shredder.

They delivered it last week and I finally got to use it Saturday. Everything went well for about an hour and then I noticed it bogging down while mowing 1-2 ft weeds and bermuda. Earlier I had been going through some 4-5 ft tall nutsedge (really nasty stuff) and had been very happy that it made it, albeit at a pretty slow pace. The bogging got to the point that after I stopped the PTO and just tried to move the tractor up a slope it struggled. I also noticed that the FEL was going up very slowly. I brought it back to the barn and tried it again yesterday with the same results. It worked great for 30-40 minutes and then started to bog down again. With no load on the hydro, the engine runs fine and responds to the hand throttle as it should and if it bogs down and dies, restarts immediately and runs fine.

I called the dealer this morning and he says it sounds like the hydraulic pump. He says this would account for the bogging and FEL problems. He says he will get w/his service manager today and get back with me. He also says he will "make it right" and I believe he will.

Any opinions and, if it is the hydraulic pump, where's it located, how much will it cost to replace it and are the any other things that need to be checked as a result of the problems with the pump?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Paul






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Technorati | Furl | Stumble This

 08-15-2005, 13:05 Post: 114900
Chief



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Southwest MiddleTennessee
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4278
 JD 4200 problem - need your opinions

From the symptoms you described, it almost sounds like the hydraulic pickup screen is clogged. This would account for the hydraulics and the hydrostat drive being sluggish. I would ask them if they replaced or at least inspected & cleaned the pickup screen? Below are some areas to check as outlined in the shop manual.

(4) Low Power?
Yes - Hydraulic oil level low in transaxle
Yes - Low charge pressure. See Tests and
Adjustments section.
Yes - Main drive pressure relief valve stuck open.
See Tests and Adjustments section.
Yes - Air in system. See Hydraulic System Bleed
Procedure.
Yes - Hydrostatic pump output pressure too low.
See Tests and Adjustments section.
Yes - Internal pump or motor damage or excessive
wear






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Technorati | Furl | Stumble This

 08-15-2005, 19:38 Post: 114920
rbkuconn



Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Suffield, CT.
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 15
 JD 4200 problem - need your opinions

You did not mention if you have a MMM, but if you have the center lift for one, the lever mounted on top of the right fender is not returning to it's detent position, allowing a bypass of fluid-and substantial power to be unavailable.

Good Luck!






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Technorati | Furl | Stumble This

 08-15-2005, 19:58 Post: 114922
steve4300

TP Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NH
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 71
 JD 4200 problem - need your opinions

I don't know about the 4200 but my 01 - 4300 had a recall on the hydrolic pick up tube screen. If this is true with yours you might want to check with your dealer about this.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us | Technorati | Furl | Stumble This

Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Thread 114896 Filter by Poster:
Chief 1 | paulss 1 | rbkuconn 1 | steve4300 1 |




Most Viewed

+ John Deere 2210 Backhoe Review
+ John Deere vs Kubota Compact Tractors
+ John Deere 790 fuel shut-off solenoid failing???
+ John Deere low viscosity HY GARD
+ John Deere JD 4100 Wiring diagram
+ JD 790 or Kubota L3000DT
+ Should I buy a John Deere 4105???
+ John Deere 4300 turns over but won't start
+ John Deere 455 garden tractor
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Most Discussion

+ John Deere 4300 scuffing......
+ Possible Solution To The 4000
+ Dealer out to lunch
+ Just got my new JD 4410 - Prob
+ Hello Green, Goodbye Orange
+ Receiver hitch for iMatch
+ 4300 wheel bolt problems
+ 4000 Ten Series 50 hour break
+ Don't buy JD compact tractors.
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Newest Topics

+ John Deere 4100 gear 3 point not workin
+ 2000 John Deer Gator 4 X2
+ Mini Excavator SY20C - Small Body with Big Power
+ John Deer 1070 starting problem
+ John Deere 990
+ Tractors R Us
+ john deere 4100 with 410 loader hydraulic problem
+ John Deere 2032R Buying advice
+ John Deere 2010 loss of hydraulics
+ L110 John Deer Tractor gas smell













Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines