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 01-14-2004, 01:29 Post: 73924
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I'm building a house on 50 acres, and I've got 2000+ feet of water line and utility trenching to do. This would be y first tractor, and I'm looking at the 4610 w/ R4, the FEL, and a backhoe. My dealer is quoting ~ 33k in a "package deal" which doesn't seem too great. Not sure I really need a 4610 anyway.
How do I negotiate with a tractor dealer (I like the dealership, but am a tractor neophyte and looking for good support and advise). I'm not afraid to pay a good dealer for service and support, and so the guy can make a living. But I don't want to get rolled MSRP just because he thinks I'm loaded or whatnot. Lord knows I'm not.

Any advise on what a fair price, delivered to my lot, (10 minutes away) is?






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 01-14-2004, 05:34 Post: 73928
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How much are you going to be using the backhoe after the intial project is done. Maybe renting a hoe could save some
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 01-14-2004, 07:42 Post: 73934
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These are reasonable prices and you can do better than these in some cases. At least they should give you a ballpark idea and a range to have in mind as well as a walk away price.






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 01-14-2004, 07:43 Post: 73935
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Backhoe pricing.






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 01-14-2004, 07:46 Post: 73936
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FEL pricing.






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 01-14-2004, 11:05 Post: 73954
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Thanks for the input guys! I'm debating on the backhoe - Once I get the house built, I'll have landscaping and a barn to build (footings, water and power to the barn, etc). As it is, I've got 2k feet of water line (still trying to figure out what it's going to take to make that work) and another 500' of other utility trenching.

If I'm going to do all this digging with the backhoe, the 4610 seems reasonable. If not, any other recommended model for fel pasture cleaning, snow blower work, and fence posthole drilling? Perhaps the 4610 is a bit much.

My dealer has a 4410 on the lot, but said it's only about $2500 less. Doesn't quite make sense to me, but it's probably got a different option set.






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 01-14-2004, 15:08 Post: 73969
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Some random thoughts. I don't know for sure you are in this situation, but you don't want to buy too large. Some people buy big for an initial workload (construction, etc) and when the job is done they find their machine is too large for ongoing work (mowing, etc) and/or they can't store it indoors. Then they trade down and lose money in the process. You could buy a 4310/4410 and use the savings to either rent a trackhoe or hire out the trenching work. A dedicated trackhoe would do the work faster, too.






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 01-14-2004, 15:16 Post: 73971
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I agree with buying a smaller machine and renting to do the initial construction stuff. My brother & his wife rented a trencher for their electric line and that thing worked great. When they were ready to backfill, they used the FEL on her uncle's TC45 and it worked great. By using the trencher, they didn't have the huge trench from a hoe which meant less of a dip when it settles. I would love to have a hoe as a toy, but can't justify the cost.






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 01-14-2004, 19:07 Post: 73995
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I recently purchased a 4710 e-hydro w/FEL heavy duty bucket rear remote, R 4s loaded, 3 hooks welded to bucket. for total 23600.00






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 01-14-2004, 19:07 Post: 73996
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I recently purchased a 4710 e-hydro w/FEL heavy duty bucket rear remote, R 4s loaded, 3 hooks welded to bucket. for total 23600.00






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